{"id":"q0a7749c7b9ba808d9a35","batch_id":"batch-000085","seq":786,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-03-01T08:31:06.660Z","text":"我们由于先笃定拱卒们的债权是假的（luc可没有承认它接受拱卒朱莉娅的登记是因为它们投资了g系列）。所以得出了这是严重布雷迪违规欺诈法庭。但对于法官或者其它中立者看来，拱卒们的债权只是有争议，被告质疑债权虚假只是他的一面之词，就算前面那一段不省略，法官也可以选择相信政府受托人而不是相信被告，所以那段隐瞒属于无害错误。特别是在陪审团定罪后，更是要站在有利于政府的视角来审视。","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"q6643548322132a142873","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0a7749c7b9ba808d9a35","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6643548322132a142873","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000085/pages/4","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000085/pages/4","notice":"围绕郭文贵案的社区讨论与观点交锋。发言仅代表讨论者观点，不等同于法院认定。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0a7749c7b9ba808d9a35","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0a7749c7b9ba808d9a35/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q0a7749c7b9ba808d9a35","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q6643548322132a142873","speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-03-01T08:15:27.364Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6643548322132a142873"},{"id":"q6b8075c43d3d067e23f1","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-01T08:16:57.845Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6b8075c43d3d067e23f1"},{"id":"q0d3fb47db77d67676578","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-01T08:19:05.480Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0d3fb47db77d67676578"},{"id":"q4a229ee2cd2c9b41528d","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-03-01T08:34:24.059Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4a229ee2cd2c9b41528d"},{"id":"q1a9a24f9ec4bdd9567d8","speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-03-01T08:40:01.925Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1a9a24f9ec4bdd9567d8"},{"id":"qcf9b201284e1996c03d0","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-01T08:40:25.099Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcf9b201284e1996c03d0"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q6643548322132a142873","speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-03-01T08:15:27.364Z","text":"问题不是债权真假，是检方断章取义，郭是效仿Luc，如果郭妨碍司法那Luc 也妨碍司法，债权人无论真假都无效，检方在这就是布雷迪违规，往严重里说是欺诈法庭","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6643548322132a142873"}}