{"id":"q0e99f4be2dbc7039cf2b","batch_id":"batch-000074","seq":919,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-01-29T04:52:43.546Z","text":"反正我问了几个ai，综合的结论是，只要行政决定的实际效果是司法裁决，cert更有机会。我这都被直接引用25-2726的判词，那就是实质上的司法裁决。","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"qf493c1606d287e553161","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0e99f4be2dbc7039cf2b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf493c1606d287e553161","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000074/pages/5","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000074/pages/5","notice":"这里汇集爆料革命参与者围绕郭文贵案的持续讨论，包括长期深度参与者及自述投入真金白银的投资者。他们分享亲历过程、资金投入与后续遭遇，并结合案卷展开追问、核对和观点交锋。这些来自事件内部的经验与细节，为理解事件经过和投资者处境提供了外部报道之外的重要视角。请结合具体发言判断其经历与依据，引用时保留发言者、时间和上下文。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0e99f4be2dbc7039cf2b","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0e99f4be2dbc7039cf2b/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q0e99f4be2dbc7039cf2b","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q2b84f96df039518e393a","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-01-29T04:47:11.905Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2b84f96df039518e393a"},{"id":"qf493c1606d287e553161","speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-01-29T04:50:01.855Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf493c1606d287e553161"},{"id":"qc40f9085df8c05fb90ab","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-01-29T04:50:50.784Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc40f9085df8c05fb90ab"},{"id":"qf1f53240b7d8c0148897","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-01-29T04:55:50.371Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf1f53240b7d8c0148897"},{"id":"qada6270fbebbbce00b30","speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-01-29T04:58:05.051Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qada6270fbebbbce00b30"},{"id":"q3e41f62c6f6c9cc7756d","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-01-29T05:45:57.163Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3e41f62c6f6c9cc7756d"}],"parent_message":{"id":"qf493c1606d287e553161","speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-01-29T04:50:01.855Z","text":"Cert 属于被下级判了以后再上诉。二巡没给你立案，没有案件号，你无法做cert吧？","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf493c1606d287e553161"}}