{"id":"q0f5d25d2853b6180188b","batch_id":"batch-000155","seq":571,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-09-02T01:28:14.121Z","text":"Hchk，有几个实体的名称都是hchk开头，直接接受那三个农场款的那个，是王雁平成立的。政府的理论是，这些公司郭名义上没股份没职位没签字权，但实际上由郭拥有和控制，里面的钱由郭随时取用，根本就不是所谓的投资，完全就是诈骗。","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"qaae6fefa0d351fbb2825","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0f5d25d2853b6180188b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaae6fefa0d351fbb2825","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000155/pages/3","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000155/pages/3","notice":"这里汇集爆料革命参与者围绕郭文贵案的持续讨论，包括长期深度参与者及自述投入真金白银的投资者。他们分享亲历过程、资金投入与后续遭遇，并结合案卷展开追问、核对和观点交锋。这些来自事件内部的经验与细节，为理解事件经过和投资者处境提供了外部报道之外的重要视角。请结合具体发言判断其经历与依据，引用时保留发言者、时间和上下文。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0f5d25d2853b6180188b","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0f5d25d2853b6180188b/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q0f5d25d2853b6180188b","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q851cd2500424dba93db6","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-09-02T01:19:35.583Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q851cd2500424dba93db6"},{"id":"qaae6fefa0d351fbb2825","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-09-02T01:22:17.322Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaae6fefa0d351fbb2825"},{"id":"q45ca7f1fb8235ba4bedd","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-09-02T01:25:52.682Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q45ca7f1fb8235ba4bedd"},{"id":"qfc0a2eee86d7a1430b39","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-09-02T01:28:56.524Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfc0a2eee86d7a1430b39"},{"id":"q64fb71e0c90bddcc0a06","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-09-02T01:30:10.297Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q64fb71e0c90bddcc0a06"},{"id":"q40307295162c3ad72612","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-09-02T01:33:05.341Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q40307295162c3ad72612"}],"parent_message":{"id":"qaae6fefa0d351fbb2825","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-09-02T01:22:17.322Z","text":"是不是可以这样说\nfarm loan最后扯上郭，是用ACA capital和HCHK的收款，证明投资款流入了郭家族，用于消费","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaae6fefa0d351fbb2825"}}