{"id":"q0fb3c0e19a0f39d51999","batch_id":"batch-000162","seq":876,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-10-09T03:32:03.229Z","text":"明白，**“九指”是魏丽红**，我按这个身份核对。\n\n**目前没有在833、834中找到“另有1亿美元未收缴，留在魏丽红、夏其东和Kyle Bass手里”的对应表述。** 找到的是几个不同口径的数字，暂时不能相加核账。\n\n| 数字 | 文件实际说什么 |\n|---|---|\n| **1亿美元** | 833叙述2020年转入Hayman的原始投资，并称后来亏损约3,000万美元、相关剩余资金经SEC和解返还。这不是“现仍持有1亿美元”的余额说明。 |\n| **9,500万美元** | 834中，辩方主张部分G Club付款使用HDO/HCN，可能与Himalaya Exchange入款重复计算。这是重复计算异议，不是未收缴资产清单。 |\n\n两份分别是**检方量刑意见和辩方回复**，上述论述不能都当成法院认定。[833，PDF第10—12页](https://nfsc.press/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/833.pdf#page=10)、[834，PDF第11页](https://nfsc.press/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/834.pdf#page=11)\n\n**“夏9,000万美元”这一步尤其需要纠正。** 亚利桑那裁定所述，是MOS起诉材料声称 **Maywind和Sara累计收到约4,400万至9,000万美元**，不是法院认定夏其东持有9,000万美元。这还是缺席判决背景下转述的诉状内容。[Dkt.84，第2页](https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/USCOURTS-azd-2_21-cv-01497/pdf/USCOURTS-azd-2_21-cv-01497-7.pdf#page=2)\n\n因此，**9,000万减去813.6万，再加其他金额，即使接近1亿，也不能证明“对上了”**：前者是所称累计入款，813.6万是后来回收款，Hayman的1亿是另一项原始投资。必须先排除同笔资金在不同账户间转移造成的重叠。\n\n关于Barr、Pompeo，查到的官方资料也需要修正：\n\n- Torridon Law由 **William Barr和Ted Ullyot**创办；\n- Pompeo于 **2025年6月12日加入，身份是Of Counsel**；\n- 官方资料指向 **Washington, D.C.**，并不支持“Barr和Pompeo在Texas共同创办律所”的说法。[律所创办人说明](https://www.thetorridongroup.com/consulting/news/torridon-law-pllc-announces-major-expansions)、[Pompeo加入公告](https://www.thetorridongroup.com/consulting/news/former-secretary-of-state-and-cia-director-mike-pompeo-joins-torridon-law-and-torridon-group)\n\n我没有查到这家律所与上述回收款之间的代理或资金联系。“深层政府”这一政治判断，也不能代替具体的委托协议、付款记录或案卷证据。","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0fb3c0e19a0f39d51999","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000162/pages/5","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000162/pages/5","notice":"这里汇集爆料革命参与者围绕郭文贵案的持续讨论，包括长期深度参与者及自述投入真金白银的投资者。他们分享亲历过程、资金投入与后续遭遇，并结合案卷展开追问、核对和观点交锋。这些来自事件内部的经验与细节，为理解事件经过和投资者处境提供了外部报道之外的重要视角。请结合具体发言判断其经历与依据，引用时保留发言者、时间和上下文。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0fb3c0e19a0f39d51999","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0fb3c0e19a0f39d51999/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q0fb3c0e19a0f39d51999","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q43603b5481bbf9b95f61","speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-10-09T03:23:30.884Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q43603b5481bbf9b95f61"},{"id":"q6e82bc95fa069284692a","speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-09T03:28:19.218Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6e82bc95fa069284692a"},{"id":"q2696adfeabb5f652cd33","speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-09T03:30:36.730Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2696adfeabb5f652cd33"},{"id":"q77fb0e42b64b68332034","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-09T03:32:06.099Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q77fb0e42b64b68332034"},{"id":"q425883fd81954cdacae8","speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-10-09T03:33:11.208Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q425883fd81954cdacae8"},{"id":"q78feed780239739c0a70","speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-09T03:34:43.009Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q78feed780239739c0a70"}],"parent_message":null}