{"id":"q11d2bf11c9a4630fa26e","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":42,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-10-29T20:00:23.173Z","text":"从陪审团证据就做假证，从根上就烂了，后面全是毒树之果","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"qec313dd966080997caa4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q11d2bf11c9a4630fa26e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qec313dd966080997caa4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166","notice":"这里汇集爆料革命参与者围绕郭文贵案的持续讨论，包括长期深度参与者及自述投入真金白银的投资者。他们分享亲历过程、资金投入与后续遭遇，并结合案卷展开追问、核对和观点交锋。这些来自事件内部的经验与细节，为理解事件经过和投资者处境提供了外部报道之外的重要视角。请结合具体发言判断其经历与依据，引用时保留发言者、时间和上下文。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q11d2bf11c9a4630fa26e","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q11d2bf11c9a4630fa26e/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q11d2bf11c9a4630fa26e","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q59744f96db7ef0b65f01","speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-10-29T19:43:22.220Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q59744f96db7ef0b65f01"},{"id":"q984033964071b48b9388","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-29T19:43:47.287Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q984033964071b48b9388"},{"id":"q4011d5e0a86204a73f03","speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-10-29T19:58:20.006Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4011d5e0a86204a73f03"},{"id":"q8afa132a70833091b490","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-29T20:53:04.794Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8afa132a70833091b490"},{"id":"qb441dbf4ce955a30adb7","speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-10-29T21:18:03.769Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb441dbf4ce955a30adb7"},{"id":"qcb7f7ccffdfe4bcfb4f2","speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-10-29T21:19:15.122Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcb7f7ccffdfe4bcfb4f2"}],"parent_message":{"id":"qec313dd966080997caa4","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-10-28T22:32:20.581Z","text":"这个叫共谋者陈述，在388里，法院确定魏张夏戴是个共谋者的陈述作为传闻证据例外进入陪审团。那这些虚假陈述进去，陪审团就会认定郭经营了犯罪集团。第三方提交的它们独立诈骗的证据可以证明这不属于传闻证据例外，属于有实质性的新证据。","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qec313dd966080997caa4"}}