{"id":"q12002bed2e76489c76bd","batch_id":"batch-000138","seq":581,"speaker":"may***","date":"2026-07-23T07:23:50.244Z","text":"试问如果你是CCP既得利益者，你会真心灭共吗？在国内体制内但凡混的不错的，都不会想去灭共的，就连底层退休有退休金的老人也不会的。更别说沼泽地的大佬了，他们也是几头押宝，谁能给他们带来利益，谁胜的面子大押谁。","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"qea1a958f6aef6108a15f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q12002bed2e76489c76bd","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qea1a958f6aef6108a15f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000138/pages/3","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000138/pages/3","notice":"这里汇集爆料革命参与者围绕郭文贵案的持续讨论，包括长期深度参与者及自述投入真金白银的投资者。他们分享亲历过程、资金投入与后续遭遇，并结合案卷展开追问、核对和观点交锋。这些来自事件内部的经验与细节，为理解事件经过和投资者处境提供了外部报道之外的重要视角。请结合具体发言判断其经历与依据，引用时保留发言者、时间和上下文。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q12002bed2e76489c76bd","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q12002bed2e76489c76bd/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q12002bed2e76489c76bd","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q0727a2a0dddbcab1e0ad","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-23T07:04:24.388Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0727a2a0dddbcab1e0ad"},{"id":"q292226a7022ee1e836c3","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-23T07:07:10.166Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q292226a7022ee1e836c3"},{"id":"qea1a958f6aef6108a15f","speaker":"wan***","date":"2026-07-23T07:17:04.531Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qea1a958f6aef6108a15f"},{"id":"qfecfdd2c663be914d609","speaker":"may***","date":"2026-07-23T07:25:49.557Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfecfdd2c663be914d609"},{"id":"q43926dac720b12de1988","speaker":"wan***","date":"2026-07-23T07:27:13.657Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q43926dac720b12de1988"},{"id":"qdcb829f2bb2159e09af1","speaker":"may***","date":"2026-07-23T07:28:17.159Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdcb829f2bb2159e09af1"}],"parent_message":{"id":"qea1a958f6aef6108a15f","speaker":"wan***","date":"2026-07-23T07:17:04.531Z","text":"看到老郭被折磨成這個樣子，沼澤地到底在哪呢？直到現在我對沼澤地的理解就是:無論是邪惡還是正義，誰能贏就幫誰的這個所謂的贏麻了的利益最大化集團","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qea1a958f6aef6108a15f"}}