{"id":"q130a7c5e108d7dc702e5","batch_id":"batch-000112","seq":192,"speaker":"ton***","date":"2026-05-17T06:02:08.035Z","text":"所以有外力来 改变了  就是等到了 pro se？","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"q0e639de8f7df9664f61a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q130a7c5e108d7dc702e5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0e639de8f7df9664f61a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000112","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000112","notice":"这里汇集爆料革命参与者围绕郭文贵案的持续讨论，包括长期深度参与者及自述投入真金白银的投资者。他们分享亲历过程、资金投入与后续遭遇，并结合案卷展开追问、核对和观点交锋。这些来自事件内部的经验与细节，为理解事件经过和投资者处境提供了外部报道之外的重要视角。请结合具体发言判断其经历与依据，引用时保留发言者、时间和上下文。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q130a7c5e108d7dc702e5","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q130a7c5e108d7dc702e5/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q130a7c5e108d7dc702e5","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"qd813c3000da12dd26059","speaker":"ton***","date":"2026-05-17T06:00:20.550Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd813c3000da12dd26059"},{"id":"qad69e4b1efefc18cd6ec","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-05-17T06:00:31.467Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qad69e4b1efefc18cd6ec"},{"id":"q0e639de8f7df9664f61a","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-05-17T06:00:49.488Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0e639de8f7df9664f61a"},{"id":"q34a2ea5c64cbf59128b3","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-05-17T06:02:28.791Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q34a2ea5c64cbf59128b3"},{"id":"qadab171f1d9bd35ba3e5","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-05-17T06:02:43.778Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qadab171f1d9bd35ba3e5"},{"id":"q9a1a0dcf0947d405514f","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-05-17T06:03:14.139Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9a1a0dcf0947d405514f"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q0e639de8f7df9664f61a","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-05-17T06:00:49.488Z","text":"不用推演 变数可能是内部，可能是外部\n他赌的是一万人，不可能全是法盲，全被忽悠","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0e639de8f7df9664f61a"}}