{"id":"q16d9543fd157e5d6589b","batch_id":"batch-000161","seq":173,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-29T07:49:22.524Z","text":"不是 二巡也没同意开没收","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"q0e527fd4ffae4324e487","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q16d9543fd157e5d6589b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0e527fd4ffae4324e487","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000161","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000161","notice":"这里汇集爆料革命参与者围绕郭文贵案的持续讨论，包括长期深度参与者及自述投入真金白银的投资者。他们分享亲历过程、资金投入与后续遭遇，并结合案卷展开追问、核对和观点交锋。这些来自事件内部的经验与细节，为理解事件经过和投资者处境提供了外部报道之外的重要视角。请结合具体发言判断其经历与依据，引用时保留发言者、时间和上下文。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q16d9543fd157e5d6589b","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q16d9543fd157e5d6589b/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q16d9543fd157e5d6589b","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q8948ace048d8eedb7690","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-29T07:47:02.290Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8948ace048d8eedb7690"},{"id":"q44eb13ed113d149b8427","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-29T07:47:06.716Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q44eb13ed113d149b8427"},{"id":"q0e527fd4ffae4324e487","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-09-29T07:47:51.427Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0e527fd4ffae4324e487"},{"id":"q1e59b226c45292dd8757","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-09-29T07:50:43.939Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1e59b226c45292dd8757"},{"id":"q12aa7812122fdc6abae5","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-29T07:50:52.583Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q12aa7812122fdc6abae5"},{"id":"q14866c737f6be8a57857","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-29T07:51:08.114Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q14866c737f6be8a57857"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q0e527fd4ffae4324e487","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-09-29T07:47:51.427Z","text":"二巡应该是把858当作最终没收令了，可能因为托雷斯已经把王跟于当作小弟，郭是唯一boss，然后通过G enterprise 所得就是郭得所得，对郭的资产没收令就是是最终没收令。那同时，没有裁决任何一个第三方就最终没收，二巡也把托雷斯没有履行宪法职责给坐实了，但为何量刑后的renew，二巡却回复说南区的程序还没有全部结束？ ［用户 kir***］","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0e527fd4ffae4324e487"}}