{"id":"q177104edc11e440ae79c","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":556,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-06-29T02:59:52.260Z","text":"我只是大概算的。目前为止，没有对上账且政府没有任何说明的部分是13.8亿减去没收清单的银行账户里的6个多亿，再减去sec那里的4个多亿后，剩下的部分。您可能是没有搞清楚金钱判决与实际没收的区别。金钱判决，是政府主张被告们诈骗了13.8亿，这是被告们应该负责的金钱责任，穷尽追缴后追不回的部分，可以让被告们赔偿。","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"qbe4f14da72ab1a558e2e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q177104edc11e440ae79c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbe4f14da72ab1a558e2e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127/pages/3","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127/pages/3","notice":"这里汇集爆料革命参与者围绕郭文贵案的持续讨论，包括长期深度参与者及自述投入真金白银的投资者。他们分享亲历过程、资金投入与后续遭遇，并结合案卷展开追问、核对和观点交锋。这些来自事件内部的经验与细节，为理解事件经过和投资者处境提供了外部报道之外的重要视角。请结合具体发言判断其经历与依据，引用时保留发言者、时间和上下文。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q177104edc11e440ae79c","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q177104edc11e440ae79c/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q177104edc11e440ae79c","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q2111d6aaa672a3bbee98","speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-06-29T02:57:17.630Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2111d6aaa672a3bbee98"},{"id":"q139cf46ba1d82cee9b36","speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-06-29T02:58:01.985Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q139cf46ba1d82cee9b36"},{"id":"q702e897b657fc8cf6e43","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-29T02:58:14.997Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q702e897b657fc8cf6e43"},{"id":"q7ffc2f345d0a34d13165","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-06-29T03:00:30.063Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7ffc2f345d0a34d13165"},{"id":"qf6b41bd233fc1dbc5a79","speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-06-29T03:03:03.534Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf6b41bd233fc1dbc5a79"},{"id":"qe57968c0dcf857794173","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-06-29T03:04:00.499Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe57968c0dcf857794173"}],"parent_message":{"id":"qbe4f14da72ab1a558e2e","speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-06-29T02:52:19.793Z","text":"我还是不明白这个帐：\n\n-政府扣押/说郭犯罪所得13.8\n-查封了G系列帐号里的6.4亿\n-SEC/扣押着GTV 共4亿\n\n减去政府所说的2.4亿不知去向\n\n综上所述 剩下了 1 亿 \n\n————————//————//","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbe4f14da72ab1a558e2e"}}