{"id":"q195fc5dd1b15631b5944","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":627,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-14T14:55:45.911Z","text":"第三方投资者 v 853普通善意购买者？","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"q4a4f350734165dfce5d8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q195fc5dd1b15631b5944","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4a4f350734165dfce5d8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163/pages/4","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163/pages/4","notice":"这里汇集爆料革命参与者围绕郭文贵案的持续讨论，包括长期深度参与者及自述投入真金白银的投资者。他们分享亲历过程、资金投入与后续遭遇，并结合案卷展开追问、核对和观点交锋。这些来自事件内部的经验与细节，为理解事件经过和投资者处境提供了外部报道之外的重要视角。请结合具体发言判断其经历与依据，引用时保留发言者、时间和上下文。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q195fc5dd1b15631b5944","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q195fc5dd1b15631b5944/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q195fc5dd1b15631b5944","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q77b3e9e1b7e34591d403","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-14T14:23:04.677Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q77b3e9e1b7e34591d403"},{"id":"q085942e181161e1e6461","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-14T14:26:37.357Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q085942e181161e1e6461"},{"id":"q4a4f350734165dfce5d8","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-14T14:35:01.773Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4a4f350734165dfce5d8"},{"id":"q7c3f1e6c7e91a0cdfc8a","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-14T15:04:55.724Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7c3f1e6c7e91a0cdfc8a"},{"id":"q4305f5d6367e2a56511e","speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-10-14T15:53:03.694Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4305f5d6367e2a56511e"},{"id":"q90784483a978b76f83dc","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-14T16:58:03.579Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q90784483a978b76f83dc"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q4a4f350734165dfce5d8","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-14T14:35:01.773Z","text":"还有不同的是，G系列案子，第三方投资者，是冻结项目的权益所有者，类似信托基金，而不是853的什么普通善意购买者之类，所以南区检方要没收，必须过第三方这一关\n钱这个案子，不存在第三方这一说","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4a4f350734165dfce5d8"}}