{"id":"q19b9ed81ff3686ebd784","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":561,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-31T11:26:10.355Z","text":"VOG/GTV，魏那里，还有5000w，没有给sec\nsec那里，已经有大概4.1亿，正好和王案没收清单，GTV的部分吻合\n起诉书里，GTV涉案 4.87，最后没收只有4.1，这个差额，很可能就是魏手里的VOG部分","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"qdd6a52ae6b27de87e51e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q19b9ed81ff3686ebd784","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdd6a52ae6b27de87e51e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166/pages/3","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166/pages/3","notice":"这里汇集爆料革命参与者围绕郭文贵案的持续讨论，包括长期深度参与者及自述投入真金白银的投资者。他们分享亲历过程、资金投入与后续遭遇，并结合案卷展开追问、核对和观点交锋。这些来自事件内部的经验与细节，为理解事件经过和投资者处境提供了外部报道之外的重要视角。请结合具体发言判断其经历与依据，引用时保留发言者、时间和上下文。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q19b9ed81ff3686ebd784","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q19b9ed81ff3686ebd784/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q19b9ed81ff3686ebd784","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"qb469289879f658d39285","speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-10-31T09:02:55.199Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb469289879f658d39285"},{"id":"q45cdb67274c058f4ba3b","speaker":"chr***","date":"2026-10-31T10:55:26.812Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q45cdb67274c058f4ba3b"},{"id":"qfb5151410fb38b68e285","speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-31T11:21:59.382Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfb5151410fb38b68e285"},{"id":"q30869dedc26813f817cb","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-31T11:32:32.029Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q30869dedc26813f817cb"},{"id":"qc1577fa5296d4aec705d","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-10-31T11:37:47.478Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc1577fa5296d4aec705d"},{"id":"q5d1aa6f3abf79803c475","speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-31T11:39:25.511Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5d1aa6f3abf79803c475"}],"parent_message":{"id":"qdd6a52ae6b27de87e51e","speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-10-31T07:32:20.287Z","text":"那这sec没退钱到底是魏没给sec钱还是sec给了张而张没退给投资人？","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdd6a52ae6b27de87e51e"}}