{"id":"q1a19a030d302d0bd86e7","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":628,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-16T01:40:14.863Z","text":"Luc在528之前都发了n个动议了","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"qb82aae291277e90c93e9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1a19a030d302d0bd86e7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb82aae291277e90c93e9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047/pages/4","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047/pages/4","notice":"这里汇集爆料革命参与者围绕郭文贵案的持续讨论，包括长期深度参与者及自述投入真金白银的投资者。他们分享亲历过程、资金投入与后续遭遇，并结合案卷展开追问、核对和观点交锋。这些来自事件内部的经验与细节，为理解事件经过和投资者处境提供了外部报道之外的重要视角。请结合具体发言判断其经历与依据，引用时保留发言者、时间和上下文。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1a19a030d302d0bd86e7","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1a19a030d302d0bd86e7/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q1a19a030d302d0bd86e7","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q3fca43413628b62a0ea7","speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-16T01:19:17.454Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3fca43413628b62a0ea7"},{"id":"qa406e7a33a21f4a077a8","speaker":"ran***","date":"2025-10-16T01:33:45.731Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa406e7a33a21f4a077a8"},{"id":"qb82aae291277e90c93e9","speaker":"wen***","date":"2025-10-16T01:37:41.893Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb82aae291277e90c93e9"},{"id":"qc6e47217c3c0a7a103cb","speaker":"wen***","date":"2025-10-16T01:40:26.914Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc6e47217c3c0a7a103cb"},{"id":"qb1419aaed367129a6cf6","speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-16T01:40:58.415Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb1419aaed367129a6cf6"},{"id":"q6c18b1672a48340fb5e7","speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-16T01:41:08.116Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6c18b1672a48340fb5e7"}],"parent_message":{"id":"qb82aae291277e90c93e9","speaker":"wen***","date":"2025-10-16T01:37:41.893Z","text":"这里补充一下：受托人Luc并不是第三方，他在本案中严格说没有身份。引用之前在老椅子群的留言：\n\nLuc在751里说了，他本来不该在刑事庭说话的，因为按照法庭令528，他没有身份。但他还是跳出来支持检方750、反对辩方724动议，他是坐不住了吗？他为什么对724指责他消耗破产财产视而不见？\n\n郭先生在724里已经直指本案最恶躲在暗处的Luc。Luc是制造上千受害人叙事的核心，是本案程序不公的始作俑者。\n\n战友们去看528法庭令，除了本案的原告政府、三名被告之外，我们作为853n程序下的第三方善意投资人，是可以上庭说话的，其他人一概没有身份，法庭已经按照法律再次重申了我们的权利。","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb82aae291277e90c93e9"}}