{"id":"q1af1f168b69ac85cb0de","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":983,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-11-01T11:06:50.786Z","text":"王雪兵等的农场的部分借贷转到了hchk，然后luc主张hchk属于债务人，王雪兵等人还到破产案去扯了皮说是农场的，然后当然是配合故意输。想呈现的是，农场借贷的资金，实际上成了债务人的个人资金。","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"q4aabc2997a1d4b654823","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1af1f168b69ac85cb0de","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4aabc2997a1d4b654823","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166/pages/5","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166/pages/5","notice":"这里汇集爆料革命参与者围绕郭文贵案的持续讨论，包括长期深度参与者及自述投入真金白银的投资者。他们分享亲历过程、资金投入与后续遭遇，并结合案卷展开追问、核对和观点交锋。这些来自事件内部的经验与细节，为理解事件经过和投资者处境提供了外部报道之外的重要视角。请结合具体发言判断其经历与依据，引用时保留发言者、时间和上下文。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1af1f168b69ac85cb0de","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1af1f168b69ac85cb0de/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q1af1f168b69ac85cb0de","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q5d8289dd91d9f034a341","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-11-01T10:48:45.392Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5d8289dd91d9f034a341"},{"id":"q631cc81752a8c4c837e7","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-11-01T10:57:25.633Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q631cc81752a8c4c837e7"},{"id":"q4aabc2997a1d4b654823","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-11-01T11:00:52.717Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4aabc2997a1d4b654823"},{"id":"q2fdb986c62705cd602de","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-11-01T11:08:38.497Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2fdb986c62705cd602de"},{"id":"qfe1c82030451c64ee220","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-11-01T11:09:10.649Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfe1c82030451c64ee220"},{"id":"q071917527adb03219b75","speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-11-01T11:24:24.850Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q071917527adb03219b75"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q4aabc2997a1d4b654823","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-11-01T11:00:52.717Z","text":"破产案那边的信息，hchk里也有。","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4aabc2997a1d4b654823"}}