{"id":"q1d44b5a66da7cdda4b2c","batch_id":"batch-000071","seq":634,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-20T19:18:19.623Z","text":"哦，他任命special master 的意思就是不想解决fraud问题","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"q1bede4ffb183bbec56ec","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1d44b5a66da7cdda4b2c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1bede4ffb183bbec56ec","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000071/pages/4","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000071/pages/4","notice":"这里汇集爆料革命参与者围绕郭文贵案的持续讨论，包括长期深度参与者及自述投入真金白银的投资者。他们分享亲历过程、资金投入与后续遭遇，并结合案卷展开追问、核对和观点交锋。这些来自事件内部的经验与细节，为理解事件经过和投资者处境提供了外部报道之外的重要视角。请结合具体发言判断其经历与依据，引用时保留发言者、时间和上下文。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1d44b5a66da7cdda4b2c","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1d44b5a66da7cdda4b2c/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q1d44b5a66da7cdda4b2c","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"qb1b1441fcfd59f845d3b","speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-01-20T19:17:21.315Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb1b1441fcfd59f845d3b"},{"id":"qb20692da1accc7b7bc71","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-20T19:17:56.273Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb20692da1accc7b7bc71"},{"id":"q2d614bc0e33682bf2adb","speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-01-20T19:18:18.426Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2d614bc0e33682bf2adb"},{"id":"q5162aaeb4baaf1dae39f","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-20T19:18:31.887Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5162aaeb4baaf1dae39f"},{"id":"q986f37b26d4d8d97c691","speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-20T19:19:08.060Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q986f37b26d4d8d97c691"},{"id":"qaad6d4e43090fdcf7104","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-20T19:19:33.742Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaad6d4e43090fdcf7104"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q1bede4ffb183bbec56ec","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-20T19:17:08.224Z","text":"这是733的relief：\n\nDeclare void and null all forfeiture orders and proceedings premised upon\n       fraudulent creditor claims, procedurally defective bankruptcy determinations, or\n       fraud upon the court, pursuant to Fed. R. Civ. P. 60(d)(3). No forfeiture\n       proceedings should continue unless and until the underlying conviction is lawfully\n       sustained. In the alternative, if the Court determines that forfeiture may proceed\n       despite these allegations, I respectfully request the appointment of an independent\n       Receiver or Special Master to ensure neutrality and protect victims’ rights. This\n       alternative request is not a concession that forfeiture may lawfully proceed under\n       fraud but serves as a protective measure for victims if the Court declines to vacate\n       the forfeiture orders.","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1bede4ffb183bbec56ec"}}