{"id":"q1d44b5a66da7cdda4b2c","batch_id":"batch-000071","seq":634,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-20T19:18:19.623Z","text":"哦，他任命special master 的意思就是不想解决fraud问题","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1bede4ffb183bbec56ec","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1d44b5a66da7cdda4b2c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1bede4ffb183bbec56ec","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000071","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000071","notice":"围绕郭文贵案的社区讨论与观点交锋。发言仅代表讨论者观点，不等同于法院认定。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1d44b5a66da7cdda4b2c","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1d44b5a66da7cdda4b2c/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q1d44b5a66da7cdda4b2c","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"qb1b1441fcfd59f845d3b","speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-01-20T19:17:21.315Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb1b1441fcfd59f845d3b"},{"id":"qb20692da1accc7b7bc71","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-20T19:17:56.273Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb20692da1accc7b7bc71"},{"id":"q2d614bc0e33682bf2adb","speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-01-20T19:18:18.426Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2d614bc0e33682bf2adb"},{"id":"q5162aaeb4baaf1dae39f","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-20T19:18:31.887Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5162aaeb4baaf1dae39f"},{"id":"q986f37b26d4d8d97c691","speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-20T19:19:08.060Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q986f37b26d4d8d97c691"},{"id":"qaad6d4e43090fdcf7104","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-20T19:19:33.742Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaad6d4e43090fdcf7104"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q1bede4ffb183bbec56ec","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-20T19:17:08.224Z","text":"这是733的relief：\n\nDeclare void and null all forfeiture orders and proceedings premised upon\n       fraudulent creditor claims, procedurally defective bankruptcy determinations, or\n       fraud upon the court, pursuant to Fed. R. Civ. P. 60(d)(3). No forfeiture\n       proceedings should continue unless and until the underlying conviction is lawfully\n       sustained. In the alternative, if the Court determines that forfeiture may proceed\n       despite these allegations, I respectfully request the appointment of an independent\n       Receiver or Special Master to ensure neutrality and protect victims’ rights. This\n       alternative request is not a concession that forfeiture may lawfully proceed under\n       fraud but serves as a protective measure for victims if the Court declines to vacate\n       the forfeiture orders.","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1bede4ffb183bbec56ec"}}