{"id":"q1e8864ff74cf25162d8e","batch_id":"batch-000109","seq":362,"speaker":"yyy***","date":"2026-05-07T06:58:29.848Z","text":"3000应该是具体贷款的个人担保，并不是贷款的数量，贷款还清后，PAX应该是通过各种操作认为被告应该支付这3000的个人担保，然后南区不允许被告质证（例如贷款已还为何还要个人担保？签字造假为何不可质证）、不允许发言，判被告输，然后金额滚动到以亿为单位，这个以“亿”应该就是833那一段介绍事情起因时点到的以亿为单位钱。这个亿就导致了破产","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"qa7fc10aade34c4843fdd","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1e8864ff74cf25162d8e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa7fc10aade34c4843fdd","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000109/pages/2","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000109/pages/2","notice":"围绕郭文贵案的社区讨论与观点交锋。发言仅代表讨论者观点，不等同于法院认定。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1e8864ff74cf25162d8e","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1e8864ff74cf25162d8e/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q1e8864ff74cf25162d8e","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"qa9e08969eb3cc42d2f82","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-05-07T06:31:08.720Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa9e08969eb3cc42d2f82"},{"id":"qbe35aea51e26e0793dfd","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-05-07T06:32:46.752Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbe35aea51e26e0793dfd"},{"id":"qadd5f81f235a2ba0dc0d","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-05-07T06:34:22.168Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qadd5f81f235a2ba0dc0d"},{"id":"qf1ab56dc3bd9694526ab","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-05-07T07:02:14.504Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf1ab56dc3bd9694526ab"},{"id":"q532bfe29288ddfee1428","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-05-07T07:07:33.071Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q532bfe29288ddfee1428"},{"id":"q43a8831b1d1e85360e63","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-05-07T07:08:37.272Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q43a8831b1d1e85360e63"}],"parent_message":{"id":"qa7fc10aade34c4843fdd","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-05-07T06:29:32.618Z","text":"郭的意思似乎是，3000万贷款已经还，还的还是离岸美元，通过HK","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa7fc10aade34c4843fdd"}}