{"id":"q1ec6886588d3dd2740a9","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":435,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-21T07:22:11.838Z","text":"是不是只有luc上庭才能说清楚初始债权人都有谁","edited":false,"reply_to":"q448bd391dca82982c578","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1ec6886588d3dd2740a9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q448bd391dca82982c578","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017","notice":"清洗后的社区讨论原话，按时间分批归档，固定首次采集版本，不随原作者后续编辑或删除更新，不含附件内容。含不同观点、推测与未经核实的主张，不代表本站结论或法院认定。导读仅供定位，请阅读完整发言及回复上下文，并结合一手文书核验。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1ec6886588d3dd2740a9","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1ec6886588d3dd2740a9/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q1ec6886588d3dd2740a9","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q61ef3d6257dc1c2a6fdc","speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-21T07:20:59.612Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q61ef3d6257dc1c2a6fdc"},{"id":"qc916ddf63d5cf0c3b70d","speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-21T07:21:03.104Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc916ddf63d5cf0c3b70d"},{"id":"qa5fcd137d0b7bde941d2","speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-21T07:21:14.640Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa5fcd137d0b7bde941d2"},{"id":"q3b05a0a958dff095deb5","speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-21T07:22:23.047Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3b05a0a958dff095deb5"},{"id":"q7bfa7e5f5b98f1edf239","speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-21T07:22:25.237Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7bfa7e5f5b98f1edf239"},{"id":"q324f87548e5bebc04bb7","speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-21T07:22:28.091Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q324f87548e5bebc04bb7"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q448bd391dca82982c578","speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-21T07:09:16.883Z","text":"所以现在待定的问题只有最早的那批债权人是否合法。现在还没有他们虚假索赔的证据吧？只是七哥直播提到了","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q448bd391dca82982c578"}}