{"id":"q1ec6886588d3dd2740a9","batch_id":"batch-000017","seq":435,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-21T07:22:11.838Z","text":"是不是只有luc上庭才能说清楚初始债权人都有谁","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"q448bd391dca82982c578","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1ec6886588d3dd2740a9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q448bd391dca82982c578","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017/pages/3","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000017/pages/3","notice":"这里汇集爆料革命参与者围绕郭文贵案的持续讨论，包括长期深度参与者及自述投入真金白银的投资者。他们分享亲历过程、资金投入与后续遭遇，并结合案卷展开追问、核对和观点交锋。这些来自事件内部的经验与细节，为理解事件经过和投资者处境提供了外部报道之外的重要视角。请结合具体发言判断其经历与依据，引用时保留发言者、时间和上下文。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1ec6886588d3dd2740a9","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1ec6886588d3dd2740a9/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q1ec6886588d3dd2740a9","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q61ef3d6257dc1c2a6fdc","speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-21T07:20:59.612Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q61ef3d6257dc1c2a6fdc"},{"id":"qc916ddf63d5cf0c3b70d","speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-21T07:21:03.104Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc916ddf63d5cf0c3b70d"},{"id":"qa5fcd137d0b7bde941d2","speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-21T07:21:14.640Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa5fcd137d0b7bde941d2"},{"id":"q3b05a0a958dff095deb5","speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-21T07:22:23.047Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3b05a0a958dff095deb5"},{"id":"q7bfa7e5f5b98f1edf239","speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-21T07:22:25.237Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7bfa7e5f5b98f1edf239"},{"id":"q324f87548e5bebc04bb7","speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-21T07:22:28.091Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q324f87548e5bebc04bb7"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q448bd391dca82982c578","speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-21T07:09:16.883Z","text":"所以现在待定的问题只有最早的那批债权人是否合法。现在还没有他们虚假索赔的证据吧？只是七哥直播提到了","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q448bd391dca82982c578"}}