{"id":"q240522e8093637c6ec34","batch_id":"batch-000032","seq":327,"speaker":"rim***","date":"2025-09-04T21:53:32.415Z","text":"说的不对，盖尔用的方式和诈骗犯青藤是一样的，盖尔引用cvra加入案件，就是把喜交所填表登记的人坐实成七哥的受害人，引用cvra的核心就是要强调受害人地位，别看他嘴上说不是受害人，但是是不是受害人他说的不算，要看法庭的态度和判决。诈骗犯青藤联系检方以受害人身份上庭发言说自己不是受害人，和盖尔引用cvra说自己代理的几千人不是受害人，都是一个性质","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5d9ae7be6db79e93eec2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q240522e8093637c6ec34","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5d9ae7be6db79e93eec2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000032","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000032","notice":"围绕郭文贵案的社区讨论与观点交锋。发言仅代表讨论者观点，不等同于法院认定。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q240522e8093637c6ec34","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q240522e8093637c6ec34/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q240522e8093637c6ec34","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"qee62636ff5ac60cd2bb1","speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-04T21:52:17.046Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qee62636ff5ac60cd2bb1"},{"id":"qfae303b0143809e4be72","speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-04T21:52:40.809Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfae303b0143809e4be72"},{"id":"q9108ce5c94fe45e87352","speaker":"him***","date":"2025-09-04T21:52:48.006Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9108ce5c94fe45e87352"},{"id":"q14b18f88618ef0ea5c86","speaker":"him***","date":"2025-09-04T21:54:24.045Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q14b18f88618ef0ea5c86"},{"id":"qcf02344e7f835f79fb9b","speaker":"him***","date":"2025-09-04T21:54:42.890Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcf02344e7f835f79fb9b"},{"id":"q5197e767b47514c87ec2","speaker":"him***","date":"2025-09-04T21:55:04.202Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5197e767b47514c87ec2"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q5d9ae7be6db79e93eec2","speaker":"him***","date":"2025-09-04T15:53:09.525Z","text":"因为他一边说他代表的人不是受害者，一边引用cvra","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5d9ae7be6db79e93eec2"}}