{"id":"q25b02a0bc0441cc573c6","batch_id":"batch-000162","seq":207,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-04T07:46:57.223Z","text":"而helen的maywind投资，就是这部分。\n长岛说被冻结，撒谎；\n检方说和解，这部分不起诉，不算没收，但前提是，投资者收到了退款啊，可长岛并没有退款，自己闷了","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"q101859c6b6de46d376b2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q25b02a0bc0441cc573c6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q101859c6b6de46d376b2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000162/pages/2","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000162/pages/2","notice":"这里汇集爆料革命参与者围绕郭文贵案的持续讨论，包括长期深度参与者及自述投入真金白银的投资者。他们分享亲历过程、资金投入与后续遭遇，并结合案卷展开追问、核对和观点交锋。这些来自事件内部的经验与细节，为理解事件经过和投资者处境提供了外部报道之外的重要视角。请结合具体发言判断其经历与依据，引用时保留发言者、时间和上下文。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q25b02a0bc0441cc573c6","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q25b02a0bc0441cc573c6/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q25b02a0bc0441cc573c6","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"qf9774723b33e2f4b10a7","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-04T07:31:08.315Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf9774723b33e2f4b10a7"},{"id":"qf10987e39692860eb6a7","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-04T07:36:03.360Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf10987e39692860eb6a7"},{"id":"q101859c6b6de46d376b2","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-04T07:37:21.187Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q101859c6b6de46d376b2"},{"id":"qe675a9676534bf9e0dbf","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-04T07:49:12.522Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe675a9676534bf9e0dbf"},{"id":"q253d194a286435e91f09","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-04T07:49:30.478Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q253d194a286435e91f09"},{"id":"q26a0ba5d10168ee7052d","speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-10-04T07:53:37.654Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q26a0ba5d10168ee7052d"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q101859c6b6de46d376b2","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-04T07:37:21.187Z","text":"都是农场借贷\n70%去了ACA capital 被冻，要没收\n30%到魏的maywind 没有冻，不在没收清单\n即使二人民事诉讼，和解，但这部分，也该被刑事案追回\n郭motion提到过这个事，检方没有追，也不给说法，唯一的解释，就是不起诉协议","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q101859c6b6de46d376b2"}}