{"id":"q26bb02aa6c5e42bb2011","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":3,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-08-27T19:40:11.487Z","text":"就是说喜交所和汉密尔顿都是于是最终所有权，签字权和控制权人？","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"q88158b6b1b328e0e4d9d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q26bb02aa6c5e42bb2011","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q88158b6b1b328e0e4d9d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154","notice":"围绕郭文贵案的社区讨论与观点交锋。发言仅代表讨论者观点，不等同于法院认定。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q26bb02aa6c5e42bb2011","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q26bb02aa6c5e42bb2011/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q26bb02aa6c5e42bb2011","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q44475a3dc6d2810a6d94","speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-08-27T19:13:53.610Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q44475a3dc6d2810a6d94"},{"id":"q3407cb575211275e8e83","speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-08-27T19:19:34.596Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3407cb575211275e8e83"},{"id":"qcb60e9d3c1de684106e1","speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-08-27T20:00:27.978Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcb60e9d3c1de684106e1"},{"id":"qb4abd3d5e20e33435e2d","speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-08-27T20:01:31.639Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb4abd3d5e20e33435e2d"},{"id":"qf8b5bd39d5760a423b2b","speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-08-27T20:35:20.531Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf8b5bd39d5760a423b2b"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q88158b6b1b328e0e4d9d","speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-08-27T11:51:41.968Z","text":"这轮有一个新的实质性突破，而且比“谁口头上叫谁Boss”更硬：我把 Dkt.716-2 / 716-5 的FBI原始银行/KYC证据和后来 Dkt.803→858 的“authority over disbursements”法律标准直接对上了。结果是：在HEX/Hamilton这组真正的大额银行账户上，政府自己在起诉前掌握的文件，把所有权、签字权和账户控制明确指向 William Je，而不是郭。\n\n* 原始docket / 日期 / 原文要点。 Dkt.716-5虽然是 2025年7月28日公开提交，但附件是FBI Special Agent Anthony Alecci在2022年10月申请扣押令时的宣誓书，也就是起诉郭之前政府已经掌握的证据。宣誓书说，Mercantile Bank八个Target Accounts中，六个账户由Je全资拥有的公司持有；Je是HEX的founder/chairman，并且是运营HEX的Major Lead、Himalaya International Clearing、Himalaya Financial、Himalaya Reserves等实体的 “100% beneficial owner”。 更关键的是逐账户KYC：Himalaya Clearing账户，Je是 authorized signer + ultimate beneficial owner + 100% shareholder；Himalaya Reserves同样是 authorized signer、CEO、UBO、100% shareholder；Himalaya Financial也是；Hamilton Investment Management也是。Himalaya Reserves在Mercantile的账户当时余额高达 $277 million。 Hamilton法务后来还直接告诉银行，“William Je is the ultimate beneficiary/individual shareholder (100%)” of Himalaya Currency Clearing Australia。\n    而 Dkt.716-2 的更早扣押宣誓书已经出现同样结构：G Club多个银行账户的authorized signer是其Financial Controller Alex Hadjicharalambous；Je是Hamilton账户的authorized signer，同时又是HEX实体FV Bank账户的UBO和authorized signer。 这不是第三方后来为了保资产提出的说法，而是FBI/SEC在2022年依据银行资料、subpoena returns和KYC形成的政府自己的调查记录","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q88158b6b1b328e0e4d9d"}}