{"id":"q2b11f65e740a67f09413","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":452,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-26T18:12:13.651Z","text":"［用户 sar***］  无论肯定或者否定 他就得面对第三方打了vacate的法律背景 一旦他说了 说明第三方用这个法律背景打了vacate 二巡自己的order加重了律师cronic的外观 程序被第三方推进 而不是被告律师  \n\n直接deny 他怕到时候被抓把柄 说你们和托雷斯一起枉法","text_en":null,"edited":true,"reply_to":"q479fb6b139b7a3792a6a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2b11f65e740a67f09413","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q479fb6b139b7a3792a6a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165/pages/3","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165/pages/3","notice":"这里汇集爆料革命参与者围绕郭文贵案的持续讨论，包括长期深度参与者及自述投入真金白银的投资者。他们分享亲历过程、资金投入与后续遭遇，并结合案卷展开追问、核对和观点交锋。这些来自事件内部的经验与细节，为理解事件经过和投资者处境提供了外部报道之外的重要视角。请结合具体发言判断其经历与依据，引用时保留发言者、时间和上下文。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2b11f65e740a67f09413","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2b11f65e740a67f09413/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q2b11f65e740a67f09413","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q22a7439385064e9da759","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-26T18:05:57.158Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q22a7439385064e9da759"},{"id":"q52c8eb7736ee12b28a06","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-26T18:06:01.333Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q52c8eb7736ee12b28a06"},{"id":"q479fb6b139b7a3792a6a","speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-10-26T18:10:13.322Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q479fb6b139b7a3792a6a"},{"id":"q38489da5721a105c4d5e","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-26T18:12:38.836Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q38489da5721a105c4d5e"},{"id":"qaa163ff72df3f4c554c0","speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-10-26T18:21:54.910Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaa163ff72df3f4c554c0"},{"id":"q18d8baae8c48e2324995","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-26T18:22:11.400Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q18d8baae8c48e2324995"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q479fb6b139b7a3792a6a","speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-10-26T18:10:13.322Z","text":"其实我还是不太懂这个问题为什么这么难回答。\n肯定又怎样？\n否定又怎样？\n直接deny 不予回答也算是一种最保守的回答呀，就像中共外交部发言人的那种回答方式不就也能糊弄过去吗？","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q479fb6b139b7a3792a6a"}}