{"id":"q2b84f96df039518e393a","batch_id":"batch-000074","seq":916,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-01-29T04:47:11.905Z","text":"cert的问题，我的ai跟我说cert比Original Mandamus更有机会，说最高法明确过这个事情，只要实际效果是一个司法裁决，就可以cert。因为你说的是对方主动打过来，是程序上必然有这一步吗？如果对方打过来，我的美国电话是虚拟号，他们打不过来，因为二巡有两次说要给我回电，然后我都没收到回电，我留本地电话，由于不是加拿大以+1开头的电话，估计最高法的书记处的座机不知开通国际电话权限没有，可能也打不进来，打进来我的语言能力也应付不了，程序无法往下推进。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qdf3583a79f3aa75dd704","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2b84f96df039518e393a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdf3583a79f3aa75dd704","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000074","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000074","notice":"围绕郭文贵案的社区讨论与观点交锋。发言仅代表讨论者观点，不等同于法院认定。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2b84f96df039518e393a","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2b84f96df039518e393a/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q2b84f96df039518e393a","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"qb4f559351632086f4dcd","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-29T04:00:53.006Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb4f559351632086f4dcd"},{"id":"qdf3583a79f3aa75dd704","speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-01-29T04:02:59.100Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdf3583a79f3aa75dd704"},{"id":"q3654a0caeb0b19b8f005","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-29T04:35:48.554Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3654a0caeb0b19b8f005"},{"id":"qf493c1606d287e553161","speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-01-29T04:50:01.855Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf493c1606d287e553161"},{"id":"qc40f9085df8c05fb90ab","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-01-29T04:50:50.784Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc40f9085df8c05fb90ab"},{"id":"q0e99f4be2dbc7039cf2b","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-01-29T04:52:43.546Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0e99f4be2dbc7039cf2b"}],"parent_message":{"id":"qdf3583a79f3aa75dd704","speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-01-29T04:02:59.100Z","text":"我做的是强制令，因为我没有被二巡立案，没办法做cert. 做cert 必须有二巡的案件号。而且做 cert 必须打印40份，要找在美国的一家专业打印法律文件的公司。打印费大约要4000美金。而且当时我也没有案件号，人家后来都不接我的电话。\n但是你做 IFP可以不用打印40份。\n\n你从二巡没得到案件号，也只能走IFP+extraordinary mandamus途径。\n\n打电话问的事情很简单，就是问她们有没有进行初步审查和立案。打电话之前先找机器人帮你出个初稿。","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdf3583a79f3aa75dd704"}}