{"id":"q2dc699c3ea47cd0d86d3","batch_id":"batch-000148","seq":120,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-08-20T05:56:19.236Z","text":"郭签署的第11章破产bankrupty是引子，板机trigger\n签署这个，就会有受托人trustee出现，代表郭对于资产处理，发表意见\n这个时候再开启刑事案criminal case，对郭王余，进行rico，只要有任何一个defedant plea guilty，同意forfeiture assets，那么G entetprise就顺理成章，成为郭的alter ego，破产案trustee，就可以协同刑事案进行处置","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"qa130eb4fa58f3697eed5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2dc699c3ea47cd0d86d3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa130eb4fa58f3697eed5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000148","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000148","notice":"这里汇集爆料革命参与者围绕郭文贵案的持续讨论，包括长期深度参与者及自述投入真金白银的投资者。他们分享亲历过程、资金投入与后续遭遇，并结合案卷展开追问、核对和观点交锋。这些来自事件内部的经验与细节，为理解事件经过和投资者处境提供了外部报道之外的重要视角。请结合具体发言判断其经历与依据，引用时保留发言者、时间和上下文。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2dc699c3ea47cd0d86d3","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2dc699c3ea47cd0d86d3/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q2dc699c3ea47cd0d86d3","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"qa130eb4fa58f3697eed5","speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-08-20T05:47:01.102Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa130eb4fa58f3697eed5"},{"id":"qa1445742450fba20a8b7","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-08-20T05:50:58.472Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa1445742450fba20a8b7"},{"id":"q67dcbe892a0ee223ac5a","speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-08-20T05:52:07.606Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q67dcbe892a0ee223ac5a"},{"id":"qb80955a75c78dec68c07","speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-08-20T05:56:29.835Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb80955a75c78dec68c07"},{"id":"qd2e1621262838790db4a","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-08-20T05:58:36.257Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd2e1621262838790db4a"},{"id":"q2f32d1be41acada20025","speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-08-20T05:59:41.525Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2f32d1be41acada20025"}],"parent_message":{"id":"qa130eb4fa58f3697eed5","speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-08-20T05:47:01.102Z","text":"而且现在5739出现以后，这条时间线更值得重新看。\n\n因为2023年的Mahwah Settlement可能不是一个孤立事件，而有可能是后来5739这种Government ↔ Trustee大规模资产分流模式的早期模板。\n\n所以我现在会把你这个发现概括成一句非常关键的话：\n\nMahwah suggests that Trustee–Government asset coordination preceded both final ownership adjudication and final criminal forfeiture, rather than arising as a consequence of those adjudications.\n\n也就是：\n\n不是“法院先判清楚，Luc和政府再执行”；而至少Mahwah的记录显示，“双方先建立资产合作框架，司法裁判后来才陆续完成”。\n\n这就是为什么这条Mahwah线，我认为现在和5739放在一起看，意义确实比单独看2023年的时候大很多。","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa130eb4fa58f3697eed5"}}