{"id":"q30e4bbd08fb0d61e42be","batch_id":"batch-000162","seq":433,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-10-06T03:34:15.485Z","text":"魏那个地方投资gtv用的是vog，应该没有用maywind 。","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"q663e56c6efd06d599fb4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q30e4bbd08fb0d61e42be","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q663e56c6efd06d599fb4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000162/pages/3","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000162/pages/3","notice":"这里汇集爆料革命参与者围绕郭文贵案的持续讨论，包括长期深度参与者及自述投入真金白银的投资者。他们分享亲历过程、资金投入与后续遭遇，并结合案卷展开追问、核对和观点交锋。这些来自事件内部的经验与细节，为理解事件经过和投资者处境提供了外部报道之外的重要视角。请结合具体发言判断其经历与依据，引用时保留发言者、时间和上下文。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q30e4bbd08fb0d61e42be","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q30e4bbd08fb0d61e42be/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q30e4bbd08fb0d61e42be","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"qcb28a450b208ce227705","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-06T03:01:19.585Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcb28a450b208ce227705"},{"id":"q2e4f1d5f411b52cbf7ef","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-06T03:21:39.658Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2e4f1d5f411b52cbf7ef"},{"id":"q663e56c6efd06d599fb4","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-06T03:30:22.935Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q663e56c6efd06d599fb4"},{"id":"qf7bdd60ee02f487d9162","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-06T03:36:16.423Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf7bdd60ee02f487d9162"},{"id":"q0b59e5acbd362ccb60d8","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-10-06T03:39:51.531Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0b59e5acbd362ccb60d8"},{"id":"qb8de94e6cf0248474f12","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-06T03:40:27.659Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb8de94e6cf0248474f12"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q663e56c6efd06d599fb4","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-06T03:30:22.935Z","text":"［用户 ntp***］ 关于张永兵\n1 GTV投资，属于G系列，涉诈骗案，王案已经定罪\n这和公平基金在退款，不冲突\n2 张作为案子的未起诉co-conspiracy从起诉书开始，他的律所，就没有继续代理GTV投资者退款的权限\n3 对王涉案的14亿，初步没收清单包括了整个GTV投资，也包括公平基金退款\n4 委托张退款的，用CVRA自诉，检方不回应，那么王案的最终没收，没法开始（这部分投资，应该先从14亿剥离出来，再谈没收）","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q663e56c6efd06d599fb4"}}