{"id":"q3586f08ed48388bc6e2a","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":355,"speaker":"mia***","date":"2025-12-12T04:20:31.062Z","text":"实际损失的投资者法律意义上确实是受害者，但是联盟农场那些人是诈骗获利的，并不属于真正意义的受害者，而被告没有任何获利和诈骗意图，反而背锅，程序不正义是在这里做假把锅都给了被告？","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"q9fad11934952a8698bf6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3586f08ed48388bc6e2a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9fad11934952a8698bf6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063/pages/2","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063/pages/2","notice":"这里汇集爆料革命参与者围绕郭文贵案的持续讨论，包括长期深度参与者及自述投入真金白银的投资者。他们分享亲历过程、资金投入与后续遭遇，并结合案卷展开追问、核对和观点交锋。这些来自事件内部的经验与细节，为理解事件经过和投资者处境提供了外部报道之外的重要视角。请结合具体发言判断其经历与依据，引用时保留发言者、时间和上下文。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3586f08ed48388bc6e2a","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3586f08ed48388bc6e2a/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q3586f08ed48388bc6e2a","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q84d47c3f050f8de8ce19","speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-12T04:17:14.514Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q84d47c3f050f8de8ce19"},{"id":"q37f9eae867da56e641fb","speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-12T04:17:49.995Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q37f9eae867da56e641fb"},{"id":"q393c45dbbf2fce61ce23","speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-12-12T04:18:00.267Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q393c45dbbf2fce61ce23"},{"id":"qfce193d35e27ba435fb3","speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-12-12T04:20:53.428Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfce193d35e27ba435fb3"},{"id":"q8560a0ffd7f981800ad0","speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-12T04:22:23.160Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8560a0ffd7f981800ad0"},{"id":"q72612d8b20271cbcd6f8","speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-12T04:22:45.841Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q72612d8b20271cbcd6f8"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q9fad11934952a8698bf6","speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-12T04:09:30.251Z","text":"没有受害人也可以起诉，只要证明被告有诈骗意图就可以","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9fad11934952a8698bf6"}}