{"id":"q359f59a312f8470b9693","batch_id":"batch-000016","seq":363,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-18T15:01:44.651Z","text":"不是态度硬不硬的问题。检方提交了证据。法官要求老郭回复，老郭就必须回复。如果态度硬，那老郭就直接对抗。对抗检方时，没收令没有下，第三方不能介入。这样对老郭的境况，不如同意没收令，但是不承认资金归属，对抗和没收程序同时进行是更好的选择","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf3c125399003c010445c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q359f59a312f8470b9693","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf3c125399003c010445c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000016","notice":"围绕郭文贵案的社区讨论与观点交锋。发言仅代表讨论者观点，不等同于法院认定。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q359f59a312f8470b9693","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q359f59a312f8470b9693/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q359f59a312f8470b9693","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"qca020a07213c30c6c040","speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-18T15:01:28.629Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qca020a07213c30c6c040"},{"id":"qa782e188ce5fb3e40a5c","speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-18T15:01:38.477Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa782e188ce5fb3e40a5c"},{"id":"q6b82a0a98bb4a3450df6","speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-18T15:01:38.967Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6b82a0a98bb4a3450df6"},{"id":"q368795ae74426c12512d","speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-18T15:01:48.693Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q368795ae74426c12512d"},{"id":"qf68a34d0586020f2bc54","speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-18T15:01:51.688Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf68a34d0586020f2bc54"},{"id":"q648fe38a741991645081","speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-18T15:02:02.426Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q648fe38a741991645081"}],"parent_message":{"id":"qf3c125399003c010445c","speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-18T14:58:42.608Z","text":"我觉得没收肯定是要下来的，第三方也肯定会开启，郭没必要退这一步，态度强硬点，检方会更快拿出证据","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf3c125399003c010445c"}}