{"id":"q35beea45d1f463a00126","batch_id":"batch-000151","seq":208,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-08-25T09:36:47.645Z","text":"这次你把 691和720原件一起给出来，非常有价值。我逐页核过以后，截图里Robert和Qodty其实各抓到了一部分，但有一个地方必须纠正：691并没有说“王是14亿、郭后来从14亿变13亿”。\n\n691真正说的是另一件非常重要的事。\n\n691：政府主动要求暂停王的第三方没收程序，等郭的没收令\n\n2025年4月15日，政府告诉Torres：王雁平的 Dkt.329 Wang Forfeiture Order 已经产生了大量第三方产权申请——当时至少约 102份petitions。\n\n政府然后明确要求：\n\n暂停这些petitions的处理，直到法院对郭进入preliminary forfeiture order。\n\n理由也写得非常清楚：\n\n政府准备把这些 Subject Properties 也放进郭的preliminary forfeiture order；\n\nTrustee也声称对这些资产有interest；\n\n等郭的没收令出来以后，把所有第三方产权争议放到一个ancillary proceeding里统一解决，避免同一资产出现两套互相冲突的裁判。\n\n所以Qodty说：\n\n“王案的forfeiture程序被暂停，要等郭案量刑后再决定。”\n\n方向基本对。\n\n更精确是：\n\n不是整个王案没收被暂停，而是王Dkt.329以后已经提交的第三方§853(n) petitions被政府请求stay，等郭的preliminary forfeiture order出来以后统一处理。\n\n这非常重要。","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q35beea45d1f463a00126","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000151/pages/2","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000151/pages/2","notice":"围绕郭文贵案的社区讨论与观点交锋。发言仅代表讨论者观点，不等同于法院认定。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q35beea45d1f463a00126","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q35beea45d1f463a00126/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q35beea45d1f463a00126","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q7c0690efb7ff5b4b001a","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-08-25T09:25:10.947Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7c0690efb7ff5b4b001a"},{"id":"q0cd8abdead6987d469fa","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-08-25T09:26:45.185Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0cd8abdead6987d469fa"},{"id":"q7d6279833e84dd8727e6","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-08-25T09:28:37.306Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7d6279833e84dd8727e6"},{"id":"qe79eb4fa49ae63919563","speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-08-25T09:37:18.003Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe79eb4fa49ae63919563"},{"id":"q6b7bf2e5ee0832861e45","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-08-25T09:37:31.675Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6b7bf2e5ee0832861e45"},{"id":"qdf063b1d43c2a7412c0c","speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-08-25T09:37:48.028Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdf063b1d43c2a7412c0c"}],"parent_message":null}