{"id":"q35e62f1209e3aa845604","batch_id":"batch-000147","seq":5,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-08-19T11:19:27.661Z","text":"如果26-1853的人真要推进，我认为最现实的请求不是“二巡命令Luc马上上庭”，而是：\n\n指出5739揭示了重大、未解决的事实问题，请求二巡在认为这些问题影响sentence/forfeiture有效性时，vacate或remand，由district court进行必要的事实调查；在那个程序里再依法寻求Luc的证言和相关非特权材料。\n\n这条路径法律上比直接让二巡“传Luc”现实很多。\n\n而且你刚才那句话其实可以再推进一步：5739可以终止Luc未来对某批资产的争夺，但它不能倒过来抹掉他2022—2026年已经做过的调查、已经与政府发生的联系，也不能自动让这些历史事实变得不可发现。","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"qa7040bc3ee74793504f0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q35e62f1209e3aa845604","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa7040bc3ee74793504f0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000147","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000147","notice":"围绕郭文贵案的社区讨论与观点交锋。发言仅代表讨论者观点，不等同于法院认定。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q35e62f1209e3aa845604","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q35e62f1209e3aa845604/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q35e62f1209e3aa845604","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"qa7040bc3ee74793504f0","speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-08-19T11:17:53.988Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa7040bc3ee74793504f0"},{"id":"qba9ff5cb8618a2701c7c","speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-08-19T11:17:54.879Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qba9ff5cb8618a2701c7c"},{"id":"q3140a9b9861b0c012772","speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-08-19T11:19:14.806Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3140a9b9861b0c012772"},{"id":"qac7c769f69b484f9f6c5","speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-08-19T11:20:57.666Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qac7c769f69b484f9f6c5"},{"id":"qf91ea77c7b0b190f75c2","speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-08-19T11:21:07.987Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf91ea77c7b0b190f75c2"},{"id":"qac10167130693dee4b57","speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-08-19T11:22:22.496Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qac10167130693dee4b57"}],"parent_message":{"id":"qa7040bc3ee74793504f0","speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-08-19T11:17:53.988Z","text":"Luc放弃不代表他可以不上庭吧","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa7040bc3ee74793504f0"}}