{"id":"q360137eef4f01472955f","batch_id":"batch-000148","seq":177,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-08-20T09:48:11.403Z","text":"破产案是刑事案的 前菜","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"qb09eb08c17705511ca9b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q360137eef4f01472955f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb09eb08c17705511ca9b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000148","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000148","notice":"这里汇集爆料革命参与者围绕郭文贵案的持续讨论，包括长期深度参与者及自述投入真金白银的投资者。他们分享亲历过程、资金投入与后续遭遇，并结合案卷展开追问、核对和观点交锋。这些来自事件内部的经验与细节，为理解事件经过和投资者处境提供了外部报道之外的重要视角。请结合具体发言判断其经历与依据，引用时保留发言者、时间和上下文。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q360137eef4f01472955f","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q360137eef4f01472955f/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q360137eef4f01472955f","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q2cc252ef897fcb3e5304","speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-08-20T09:39:36.150Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2cc252ef897fcb3e5304"},{"id":"qb592f0cec285a8201865","speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-08-20T09:43:04.972Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb592f0cec285a8201865"},{"id":"qb09eb08c17705511ca9b","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-08-20T09:46:16.379Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb09eb08c17705511ca9b"},{"id":"q21ebe02becce208ebcd6","speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-08-20T09:48:18.076Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q21ebe02becce208ebcd6"},{"id":"q5f0824fe3d3c538e84ee","speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-08-20T09:48:43.120Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5f0824fe3d3c538e84ee"},{"id":"qc853f17ec318f6e7e45a","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-08-20T09:50:32.154Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc853f17ec318f6e7e45a"}],"parent_message":{"id":"qb09eb08c17705511ca9b","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-08-20T09:46:16.379Z","text":"刑事案这边，不是引用破产案结论，而是把luc的主张和操作，包装成了破产法院的结论进行呈现。我一直强调，所谓的追回欺诈转移的前提不成立，这些叙事不能用证人证词，证据的方式呈现给陪审团，用来作为其它刑事程序的证据。","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb09eb08c17705511ca9b"}}