{"id":"q360e720ef81b22019185","batch_id":"batch-000097","seq":518,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-03T12:29:17.306Z","text":"所以你的意思是，刑事庭这边判虚假索赔是金额虚假，不是这些人不能索赔？","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"q9214524eb08b257b10e8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q360e720ef81b22019185","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9214524eb08b257b10e8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000097/pages/3","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000097/pages/3","notice":"这里汇集爆料革命参与者围绕郭文贵案的持续讨论，包括长期深度参与者及自述投入真金白银的投资者。他们分享亲历过程、资金投入与后续遭遇，并结合案卷展开追问、核对和观点交锋。这些来自事件内部的经验与细节，为理解事件经过和投资者处境提供了外部报道之外的重要视角。请结合具体发言判断其经历与依据，引用时保留发言者、时间和上下文。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q360e720ef81b22019185","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q360e720ef81b22019185/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q360e720ef81b22019185","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q9214524eb08b257b10e8","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-03T12:28:13.310Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9214524eb08b257b10e8"},{"id":"q240d23fe23b0fa9b3146","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-03T12:28:35.147Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q240d23fe23b0fa9b3146"},{"id":"q4d3e5cd581206676ecf2","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-03T12:28:48.171Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4d3e5cd581206676ecf2"},{"id":"q2b56512a3667b0567533","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-03T12:29:27.541Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2b56512a3667b0567533"},{"id":"q897468c9788836e3e385","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-03T12:29:55.057Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q897468c9788836e3e385"},{"id":"qd41b72ecf983187e80e3","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-03T12:30:26.247Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd41b72ecf983187e80e3"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q9214524eb08b257b10e8","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-03T12:28:13.310Z","text":"曼宁知道luc接受的是虚假债权，luc指控郭违反禁制令，曼宁不傻，当然不会替它扛。托雷斯这边，是因为美国政府骗了她，所以她就认为被告就是鼓动虚假索赔，这里的虚假是因为高倍而虚假，不是不应该登记。也就托雷斯在辩方不出力的情况下，她不会去考虑到破产法庭那边程序有问题。","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9214524eb08b257b10e8"}}