{"id":"q36651be1b9b60b00f940","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":717,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-24T03:52:43.968Z","text":"对 同理 \n登记的郭破产案债权人\n就不能证明是G集团 真实受益人\n债权人-郭-G集团-luc\n中间一环，luc没有举证","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"qa881fcae8a83c1e2c04c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q36651be1b9b60b00f940","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa881fcae8a83c1e2c04c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104","notice":"围绕郭文贵案的社区讨论与观点交锋。发言仅代表讨论者观点，不等同于法院认定。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q36651be1b9b60b00f940","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q36651be1b9b60b00f940/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q36651be1b9b60b00f940","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"qbd4894ede7187129e8a7","speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-24T03:52:07.466Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbd4894ede7187129e8a7"},{"id":"q5d90fddcb3cd860d5b66","speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-24T03:52:16.136Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5d90fddcb3cd860d5b66"},{"id":"q10b89cc187b099110b82","speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-04-24T03:52:29.894Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q10b89cc187b099110b82"},{"id":"qc0f4fac2d2324bf41f27","speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-24T03:52:49.008Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc0f4fac2d2324bf41f27"},{"id":"q04e8a89e650e4ca6133b","speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-24T03:53:11.472Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q04e8a89e650e4ca6133b"},{"id":"qa65f5b6f02d075019af3","speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-24T03:53:52.762Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa65f5b6f02d075019af3"}],"parent_message":{"id":"qa881fcae8a83c1e2c04c","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-24T03:50:41.454Z","text":"本案的核心点，就是luc在接受拱卒和朱莉娅的债权之前，没有独立证明G enterprise 属于郭。从这个点开始，后面的一切都得推翻。","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa881fcae8a83c1e2c04c"}}