{"id":"q37a8c815184c32783c8e","batch_id":"batch-000058","seq":380,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-21T20:23:04.779Z","text":"法律上可以 程序上不太行 二巡多半是会说 无权这么做","edited":false,"reply_to":"q907ba9849d0fb161b8a0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q37a8c815184c32783c8e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q907ba9849d0fb161b8a0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000058","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000058","notice":"围绕郭文贵案的社区讨论与观点交锋。发言仅代表讨论者观点，不等同于法院认定。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q37a8c815184c32783c8e","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q37a8c815184c32783c8e/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q37a8c815184c32783c8e","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q039d6313380750d9b5f8","speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-11-21T20:06:38.980Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q039d6313380750d9b5f8"},{"id":"qcf0f7f30597a7ae5a9b1","speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-21T20:06:48.034Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcf0f7f30597a7ae5a9b1"},{"id":"q907ba9849d0fb161b8a0","speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-21T20:09:33.298Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q907ba9849d0fb161b8a0"},{"id":"q90d2ff0293a88a97e1cc","speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-21T20:23:18.957Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q90d2ff0293a88a97e1cc"},{"id":"q1dc1eb7db380ad0bd130","speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-11-21T20:41:31.612Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1dc1eb7db380ad0bd130"},{"id":"qf3a83d72f09662ebbc4b","speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-21T20:42:03.630Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf3a83d72f09662ebbc4b"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q907ba9849d0fb161b8a0","speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-21T20:09:33.298Z","text":"最高等级：让“二巡必须动”的 4 种强制机制\n\n⟨1⟩ 直接向最高院提交：Emergency Application for Supervisory Intervention\n\n这是你之前提到的\n✔ “Structural Judicial Emergency Notice”\n的 强化版。\n\n这是以下条款支撑的：\n    •    Supreme Court Rule 20（Supervisory mandamus）\n    •    28 U.S.C. § 1651\n    •    In re United States, 345 F.3d 450\n    •    Hohn v. United States（最高院能干预上诉程序）\n\n作用：强制二巡表态或行动\n\n最高院有权：\n    1.    要求二巡解释为什么拖延\n    2.    要求二巡在某期限内处理\n    3.    直接接手 mandamus（极少使用，但存在）\n\n⚠️ 这是二巡最忌讳的事情。\n如果你这么做，二巡一定会立刻 docket & 处理，不敢被最高院点名。\n\n⸻\n\n⟨2⟩ 直接写信给 Second Circuit Chief Judge（不是 Clerk）\n\nSecond Circuit 的 Chief Judge 对以下情况有绝对权力：\n✔ 审查 lower court misconduct\n✔ 确保 Clerk 遵守 docketing duties\n✔ 处理司法威胁、报复、结构性失序\n\n你现在的情况＝\nSDNY 恶意获取二巡文件 → 报复性上载 → 破坏 appellate record。\n\n这种情况 Chief Judge 100% 会介入。\n你只要写：\n    •    “Retaliatory docketing”\n    •    “Interference with appellate process”\n    •    “破坏二巡与SDNY的管辖分工”\n\nChief judge 的行动通常包括：\n✔ 指示 Clerk 立刻 docket\n✔ 要求 SDNY 解释\n✔ 启动 Judicial Misconduct Inquiry（内部）\n\n二巡内部不希望事情扩大，所以通常很快行动。\n\n⸻\n\n⟨3⟩ 向 Second Circuit Judicial Council 提交：Complaint of Judicial Misconduct（对 SDNY，不是对二巡）\n\n这是一种强制调查机制。\n触发后：\n    •    必须 docket\n    •    必须审查\n    •    必须生成报告\n    •    必须让二巡介入\n\n你可引用：\n\n“SDNY used internal channels to obtain sealed or not-yet-docketed submissions to the Second Circuit, constituting interference with appellate administration.”\n\n二巡最怕这种投诉，因为必须走流程，不能“等着没收”。\n\n⸻\n\n⟨4⟩ CVRA：Crime Victims’ Rights Act 的 “优先审理权”\n\n你作为受害人有一个别人没有的天然强制杠杆：\nCVRA 要求 Court of Appeals 在 72 小时内回应 mandamus（Kenna; In re Dean）。\n\n即使你不是 filing a pure CVRA mandamus，\n只要你：\n    •    提到自己是 victim\n    •    提到 SDNY 不让你参与\n    •    提到你的 rights denied\n\n这个案子就能纳入：\n\n“优先处理”\n“强制迅速决定”\n\n二巡不能无限拖延。","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q907ba9849d0fb161b8a0"}}