{"id":"q39b1f4022e96e0852f2d","batch_id":"batch-000085","seq":981,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-03-02T01:40:09.651Z","text":"一、首先明确一个核心法律事实：Second Circuit mandamus 本身不属于 SDNY 的“原始案件文件”\n当你向 Second Circuit 提交：\nPetition for Writ of Mandamus\n该 petition 的法律属性是：\n属于 Second Circuit appellate proceeding\n不属于 SDNY district court proceeding\n因此：\nSDNY 没有法律义务 docket Second Circuit mandamus petition\n除非：\nSecond Circuit 下达 order directing district court action\n或 petition 本身在 SDNY filed\n二、SDNY 上传 mandamus petition 的行为，本质属于“informational docketing”\n这种情况在联邦法院实践中被称为：\ninformational entry\n特点：\n不是 district court filing\n不产生 district court legal effect\n只是为了 record completeness\n因此：\n你说的这句话，在法律结构上是准确的：\n上传不等于 SDNY 承认其法律效力\n三、关键问题：为什么有的上传，有的没有？\n这是你真正关心的核心：\nRyan 的上传了\nTony 361 没上传\n364 没上传\n而且：\nSecond Circuit 已并案\n这确实产生一个程序问题：\n不一致 docketing\n四、法律上，这种情况可能有三种解释（按概率排序）\n第一种：书记官 discretionary administrative timing\n最常见原因：\nclerk office administrative delay\n原因包括：\nworkload\nstaffing\ninternal routing\n并案后：\nclerk 可能等待 consolidated record\n这种情况非常常见\n第二种：Second Circuit 未正式 transmission\nDistrict court 通常通过：\nSecond Circuit transmission\n或\ndistrict court internal routing\n获得 document\n如果 transmission 没完成：\nSDNY 不会 docket\n第三种：selective docketing（你提出的理论）\n这个理论在法律上属于：\nprocedural irregularity allegation\n但要成立，需要满足：\npattern\n和\nintent evidence\n仅仅 delay 本身：\n不足以证明 selective docketing\n五、关于你提到的 PII 暴露问题\n这是一个更严肃的程序问题\n联邦法院有明确规则：\nFRCP 5.2\n必须 redaction：\n包括：\nfull name\naddress\nSSN\nDOB\n如果 court docket publicly exposes unredacted PII：\n通常：\n责任在 filing party\n不是 clerk\n除非：\nclerk violated sealing order\n六、你提到的“record contamination”问题\n你说：\nTorres previously relied on exposure conduct in bail decision\n现在 court exposure PII\n是否污染 record？\n法律上：\n不会 automatically invalidate prior bail decision\n原因：\n时间顺序不同\nbail decision based on earlier facts\n不是 later court conduct\n七、最关键问题：\n是不是 selective docketing？\n法律标准是：\n必须证明：\nsimilarly situated filings treated differently\nAND\nintentional discrimination or arbitrary conduct\n仅仅：\ndelay\n不足够\n但：\n如果长期完全不 docket\n可能成为：\nprocedural fairness argument","edited":false,"reply_to":"q42b6e912035300e694a1","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q39b1f4022e96e0852f2d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q42b6e912035300e694a1","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000085","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000085","notice":"围绕郭文贵案的社区讨论与观点交锋。发言仅代表讨论者观点，不等同于法院认定。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q39b1f4022e96e0852f2d","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q39b1f4022e96e0852f2d/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q39b1f4022e96e0852f2d","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q1d7c373b95db6d4e43d8","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-02T01:37:57.278Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1d7c373b95db6d4e43d8"},{"id":"qac0223172d66c1af0f4e","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-02T01:38:26.164Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qac0223172d66c1af0f4e"},{"id":"q04535ccedc215dad9694","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-02T01:38:35.446Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q04535ccedc215dad9694"},{"id":"q0ae44ad0a1b597e91b13","speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-03-02T01:43:38.383Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0ae44ad0a1b597e91b13"},{"id":"q88f546cb5ebe24557cd9","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-02T01:51:33.947Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q88f546cb5ebe24557cd9"},{"id":"q83b5b6177ca6dfbc7353","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-02T01:57:53.604Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q83b5b6177ca6dfbc7353"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q42b6e912035300e694a1","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-02T00:49:05.666Z","text":"南区对于立案的强制令，由于强制令立案理由都是cvra动议压制，所以南区玩的是程序游戏：  把二巡的强制令原件原封不动的上传到南区docket。 这里有两个问题： 1: 瑞恩的强制令本身没有redaction 结果南区一上传，暴露他所有pii 导致现在在网上被人用真实姓名威胁，并且南区此举污染了当年托雷斯自己对于保释的判罚，因为当年托雷斯根据郭支持者曝光luc地址，做为拒绝保释理由之一。现在法庭违规上传强制令原件，污染了record 2: 南区玩的是，我上传强制令原件你们虽然看到内容，所以你不能说我没上传，但是这不是南区的司法文件 在南区没有法律效力。 \n\n问题： 如果你立案就上传，虽然是违规，钻空子，但是你必须所有的都一样。 现在问题了来了，361 tony的重磅强制令 主权 身份冲突 没收资金冲突 和364的强制令 一个多星期没上传了。 这说明什么？是不是太重磅 连内容都不敢让大家看了？这是不是明目张胆的selective docketing？\n\n还要加一个因素： 四份强制令在二巡并案","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q42b6e912035300e694a1"}}