{"id":"q39bb4aa24cda4bd5a2b7","batch_id":"batch-000131","seq":474,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-07-03T22:32:21.168Z","text":"最终没收令还没发布吧？才发布的是补充初步没收令","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"q50ae90bd062c31c4314c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q39bb4aa24cda4bd5a2b7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q50ae90bd062c31c4314c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131/pages/3","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000131/pages/3","notice":"这里汇集爆料革命参与者围绕郭文贵案的持续讨论，包括长期深度参与者及自述投入真金白银的投资者。他们分享亲历过程、资金投入与后续遭遇，并结合案卷展开追问、核对和观点交锋。这些来自事件内部的经验与细节，为理解事件经过和投资者处境提供了外部报道之外的重要视角。请结合具体发言判断其经历与依据，引用时保留发言者、时间和上下文。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q39bb4aa24cda4bd5a2b7","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q39bb4aa24cda4bd5a2b7/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q39bb4aa24cda4bd5a2b7","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q2b6c53a7913c818f9867","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-03T22:11:21.679Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2b6c53a7913c818f9867"},{"id":"qe2105d355ae1e6a006b5","speaker":"sug***","date":"2026-07-03T22:23:31.864Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe2105d355ae1e6a006b5"},{"id":"q0233c903f2248d6ddcc2","speaker":"sug***","date":"2026-07-03T22:25:42.689Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0233c903f2248d6ddcc2"},{"id":"q7f3a0ab56218562bd984","speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-07-03T22:37:44.001Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7f3a0ab56218562bd984"},{"id":"qa88509ffa85775ab385e","speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-07-03T22:38:16.095Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa88509ffa85775ab385e"},{"id":"q8f8e28daeef9f2fa6f01","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-03T22:46:49.022Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8f8e28daeef9f2fa6f01"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q50ae90bd062c31c4314c","speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-07-03T21:51:33.725Z","text":"那两百多853n 自诉人注意了，鉴于南区已经发布签署最后没收令，所有人都可以上二巡要求appeal - 法律依据是👇\n\n\na Final Order of Forfeiture that sweeps your funds into the pool without granting you an evidentiary Fatico hearing or evaluating your § 853(n) rights, that Final Order is a fully appealable final judgment under Fed. R. Crim. P. 32.2(c)(3). You will then have the right to file a direct, formal appeal to the Second Circuit to vacate the forfeiture order entirely based on the \"structural and constitutional taints\" you have already preserved in the record.","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q50ae90bd062c31c4314c"}}