{"id":"q3c055f7f09de5a0784d0","batch_id":"batch-000108","seq":890,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-05-05T03:13:02.176Z","text":"本来是政府证明被告控制，但在它们一番表演后，陪审团就认为政府证明了控制，现在变成我们去证明被告没有控制，或者证明没有用他的信用让那些[屏蔽词]去干坏事。证明没有基本很难，基本都是责任倒置让对方证明有，现在程序上的结果就是政府已经证明有。所以可行的只有证明检方的证明过程有问题。","text_en":null,"edited":true,"reply_to":"q55ceeb70f2d78bec8cdb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3c055f7f09de5a0784d0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q55ceeb70f2d78bec8cdb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000108/pages/5","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000108/pages/5","notice":"这里汇集爆料革命参与者围绕郭文贵案的持续讨论，包括长期深度参与者及自述投入真金白银的投资者。他们分享亲历过程、资金投入与后续遭遇，并结合案卷展开追问、核对和观点交锋。这些来自事件内部的经验与细节，为理解事件经过和投资者处境提供了外部报道之外的重要视角。请结合具体发言判断其经历与依据，引用时保留发言者、时间和上下文。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3c055f7f09de5a0784d0","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3c055f7f09de5a0784d0/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q3c055f7f09de5a0784d0","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q22ac0545ab5efa485d8e","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-05-05T02:44:12.320Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q22ac0545ab5efa485d8e"},{"id":"q9ae2f85864eba7062828","speaker":"mia***","date":"2026-05-05T02:49:59.127Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9ae2f85864eba7062828"},{"id":"q8ac53cf2a4383497b9e3","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-05-05T03:04:16.467Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8ac53cf2a4383497b9e3"},{"id":"qd6c606c4cdd6596bf2f9","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-05-05T03:17:52.937Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd6c606c4cdd6596bf2f9"},{"id":"q2cc1ba4b6d536e04dac1","speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-05-05T03:45:28.407Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2cc1ba4b6d536e04dac1"},{"id":"q2f32e34cc14a3073a65e","speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-05-05T03:46:29.561Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2f32e34cc14a3073a65e"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q55ceeb70f2d78bec8cdb","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-05-05T02:42:57.134Z","text":"说被告没有控制","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q55ceeb70f2d78bec8cdb"}}