{"id":"q3dcd4f6e4279364666cb","batch_id":"batch-000074","seq":997,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-29T14:50:07.682Z","text":"853n本身只是财产拿回申请，对郭没有正面或者负面影响","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"q26fe4d66b3cc1962bd96","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3dcd4f6e4279364666cb","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q26fe4d66b3cc1962bd96","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000074/pages/5","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000074/pages/5","notice":"这里汇集爆料革命参与者围绕郭文贵案的持续讨论，包括长期深度参与者及自述投入真金白银的投资者。他们分享亲历过程、资金投入与后续遭遇，并结合案卷展开追问、核对和观点交锋。这些来自事件内部的经验与细节，为理解事件经过和投资者处境提供了外部报道之外的重要视角。请结合具体发言判断其经历与依据，引用时保留发言者、时间和上下文。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3dcd4f6e4279364666cb","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3dcd4f6e4279364666cb/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q3dcd4f6e4279364666cb","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q12069b2b67ce62cc5545","speaker":"yyy***","date":"2026-01-29T14:34:30.916Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q12069b2b67ce62cc5545"},{"id":"q26fe4d66b3cc1962bd96","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-01-29T14:38:21.541Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q26fe4d66b3cc1962bd96"},{"id":"q01974501586afeea24fa","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-01-29T14:44:37.100Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q01974501586afeea24fa"},{"id":"q9dd637c8073c61b95530","speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-29T14:50:32.134Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9dd637c8073c61b95530"},{"id":"qb80a6e977fc71b5da3e0","speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-29T14:51:22.097Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb80a6e977fc71b5da3e0"},{"id":"q53ca12e1e35e7383d77d","speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-29T14:51:44.586Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q53ca12e1e35e7383d77d"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q26fe4d66b3cc1962bd96","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-01-29T14:38:21.541Z","text":"/很多人没明白逻辑\n/强调 善意购买 就进了法庭 检方先“定罪”后“没收(forfeiture)”的套(通过定罪 把不属于郭的 G系列喜交所资产 强行按在 郭头上)\n/再让真正的“资产拥有者”们 去要这部分资产（自己要自己的资产)\n/意思就是 我法庭先判了 你们必须认 这些资产就是郭的(庭审的重要 上去的证人都是坑他的 进庭审现场的大多数都是“自己人”)\n不是你们的 你们如果想要钱 等政府没收 再向政府申请(善意购买 不就是变相承认 资产拥有权不是你的？你承认法庭的定罪？资产是郭的？你只是从郭那里买？)","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q26fe4d66b3cc1962bd96"}}