{"id":"q425ef6b81cfa6ceae556","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":353,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-10-26T02:52:32.795Z","text":"美国法律是否允许，被列入enterprise 里的公司，在唯一boss被定罪后，还可以继续运营？","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"q0139587a3d850565d858","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q425ef6b81cfa6ceae556","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0139587a3d850565d858","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165/pages/2","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165/pages/2","notice":"这里汇集爆料革命参与者围绕郭文贵案的持续讨论，包括长期深度参与者及自述投入真金白银的投资者。他们分享亲历过程、资金投入与后续遭遇，并结合案卷展开追问、核对和观点交锋。这些来自事件内部的经验与细节，为理解事件经过和投资者处境提供了外部报道之外的重要视角。请结合具体发言判断其经历与依据，引用时保留发言者、时间和上下文。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q425ef6b81cfa6ceae556","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q425ef6b81cfa6ceae556/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q425ef6b81cfa6ceae556","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"qbc0b717666b0bf949565","speaker":"nin***","date":"2026-10-26T00:13:39.713Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbc0b717666b0bf949565"},{"id":"q4daac1f5211705c011d4","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-26T00:27:46.632Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4daac1f5211705c011d4"},{"id":"q60a084de5bf25e8c83ff","speaker":"tan***","date":"2026-10-26T02:38:55.501Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q60a084de5bf25e8c83ff"},{"id":"q8718018155d2564a94df","speaker":"tan***","date":"2026-10-26T03:00:42.929Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8718018155d2564a94df"},{"id":"q87df5b1b371c0a98492c","speaker":"tan***","date":"2026-10-26T03:02:54.304Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q87df5b1b371c0a98492c"},{"id":"qe81ac3288554bc874ee9","speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-10-26T03:05:23.410Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe81ac3288554bc874ee9"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q0139587a3d850565d858","speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-10-25T20:19:44.969Z","text":"按政府自己提交的调查材料，把余建明称为盖特背后的“大老板”，有相当直接的依据。更准确地说：政府认定，他的Hamilton公司持有盖特95%的股权。 \n\n这不是仅凭他与郭的关系推测\n\n刑事案 ECF 716-4，第39页、¶41(f)，FBI调查人员明确写道：\n\n“JE’s company, Hamilton, owns 95% of Gettr”\n\n意思就是：余建明的公司Hamilton持有GETTR的95%股权。 同段还记载，该公司向GETTR投入了3,500万美元资本。从这项记载看，他所代表的是占绝大多数股权的资本方，而不只是普通管理人员。\n\n同一文件第47页、¶53还将余列为 Hamilton Investment Management Ltd.的主要负责人，以及相关Silvergate账户的授权签字人。不过，这是Hamilton相关账户的权限，不能直接替代对GETTR自身银行权限的证明。\n\n但“大股东背后的人”与“唯一最终控制人”仍要分开\n\n这里是2022年的调查宣誓书，2025年归档，不是已经核实的2026年最新股东名册，也不是专门裁定GETTR最终产权归属的判决。\n\n所以，这条证据支持余是盖特的重要控股资本方，却不能单独证明郭没有幕后影响，也不能证明余只是替郭代持。后两个方向，都需要另外的证据。\n\n你这次抓到的关键是：不能把余直接降格为“郭的财务管家”，再把他公司持有的95%股权自动算到郭头上。 接下来真正有区分力的，是股东协议、董事和CEO任免决议，以及重大付款的最终批准记录——这些才能进一步回答：余是在自己作主，还是必须听郭的。","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0139587a3d850565d858"}}