{"id":"q4859472de8a94b688130","batch_id":"batch-000015","seq":369,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-07-15T12:17:30.352Z","text":"这点很重要。但是我还是不懂：为什么不开启没收程序，就无法量刑。","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"q902b1e446265fb64e169","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4859472de8a94b688130","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q902b1e446265fb64e169","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000015/pages/2","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000015/pages/2","notice":"这里汇集爆料革命参与者围绕郭文贵案的持续讨论，包括长期深度参与者及自述投入真金白银的投资者。他们分享亲历过程、资金投入与后续遭遇，并结合案卷展开追问、核对和观点交锋。这些来自事件内部的经验与细节，为理解事件经过和投资者处境提供了外部报道之外的重要视角。请结合具体发言判断其经历与依据，引用时保留发言者、时间和上下文。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4859472de8a94b688130","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4859472de8a94b688130/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q4859472de8a94b688130","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"qedceb7dfa6a9c6984d5d","speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-15T11:35:28.195Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qedceb7dfa6a9c6984d5d"},{"id":"qecf1c6f5a0932be482a7","speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-15T11:36:03.034Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qecf1c6f5a0932be482a7"},{"id":"qcb6a2a6cb052d863e509","speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-15T11:37:00.579Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcb6a2a6cb052d863e509"},{"id":"q5445f2264073523412a1","speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-15T12:30:24.076Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5445f2264073523412a1"},{"id":"q5b57b2d1d9a853899cb3","speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-15T12:30:32.623Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5b57b2d1d9a853899cb3"},{"id":"qadbb982b0a1722f3ce48","speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-15T12:31:02.757Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qadbb982b0a1722f3ce48"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q902b1e446265fb64e169","speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-15T06:45:03.621Z","text":"不开启没收程序，就无法量刑。检方必须开启没收程序。老郭不表态，那检方就挑明为什么这些钱和老郭有关系，把破产案摆到明面上。所以，一旦检方把破产案挑明，接下来才是大战。那些傻战友，也会醒来一批。","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q902b1e446265fb64e169"}}