{"id":"q4859472de8a94b688130","batch_id":"batch-000015","seq":369,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-07-15T12:17:30.352Z","text":"这点很重要。但是我还是不懂：为什么不开启没收程序，就无法量刑。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q902b1e446265fb64e169","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4859472de8a94b688130","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q902b1e446265fb64e169","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000015","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000015","notice":"围绕郭文贵案的社区讨论与观点交锋。发言仅代表讨论者观点，不等同于法院认定。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4859472de8a94b688130","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4859472de8a94b688130/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q4859472de8a94b688130","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"qedceb7dfa6a9c6984d5d","speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-15T11:35:28.195Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qedceb7dfa6a9c6984d5d"},{"id":"qecf1c6f5a0932be482a7","speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-15T11:36:03.034Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qecf1c6f5a0932be482a7"},{"id":"qcb6a2a6cb052d863e509","speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-15T11:37:00.579Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcb6a2a6cb052d863e509"},{"id":"q5445f2264073523412a1","speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-15T12:30:24.076Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5445f2264073523412a1"},{"id":"q5b57b2d1d9a853899cb3","speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-15T12:30:32.623Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5b57b2d1d9a853899cb3"},{"id":"qadbb982b0a1722f3ce48","speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-15T12:31:02.757Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qadbb982b0a1722f3ce48"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q902b1e446265fb64e169","speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-07-15T06:45:03.621Z","text":"不开启没收程序，就无法量刑。检方必须开启没收程序。老郭不表态，那检方就挑明为什么这些钱和老郭有关系，把破产案摆到明面上。所以，一旦检方把破产案挑明，接下来才是大战。那些傻战友，也会醒来一批。","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q902b1e446265fb64e169"}}