{"id":"q48e5359bbb2d7eeeea0c","batch_id":"batch-000156","seq":879,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-09-07T00:35:55.573Z","text":"这就是老流氓了\n破产案luc追法治基金的钱，依据是GTV投资，要先捐法治基金，而王案里GTV涉洗钱，在郭案s3起诉书，GTV也在，luc根据GTV项目，是郭的alter ego，才能追法治基金\n郭量刑后，不涉及GTV的事情，那么法治基金，不该扯到郭个人，所以刑事案不敢提\n而luc也不能继续追这部分钱，除非刑事案坚持GTV仍然涉案，要继续没收，同时alter ego诉讼成功，而目前的alter ego，只赢了3个，其他都是pending","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"q79ea8acdaa16945bfa1f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q48e5359bbb2d7eeeea0c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q79ea8acdaa16945bfa1f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000156/pages/5","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000156/pages/5","notice":"围绕郭文贵案的社区讨论与观点交锋。发言仅代表讨论者观点，不等同于法院认定。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q48e5359bbb2d7eeeea0c","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q48e5359bbb2d7eeeea0c/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q48e5359bbb2d7eeeea0c","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q8b377d85c5cbc668d725","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-09-07T00:29:06.976Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8b377d85c5cbc668d725"},{"id":"q79b38d8a93e851f7a303","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-09-07T00:32:21.848Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q79b38d8a93e851f7a303"},{"id":"q79ea8acdaa16945bfa1f","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-09-07T00:33:26.818Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q79ea8acdaa16945bfa1f"},{"id":"q2cfa63c24f34b7a3e371","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-09-07T00:49:32.995Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2cfa63c24f34b7a3e371"},{"id":"q2feb28c6bf992b2458eb","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-09-07T00:51:44.913Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2feb28c6bf992b2458eb"},{"id":"q5b477f10f0d55380c085","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-09-07T00:52:31.881Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5b477f10f0d55380c085"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q79ea8acdaa16945bfa1f","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-09-07T00:33:26.818Z","text":"这个部分，可能就是因为班龙涉及到了，所以在没收令里，虽然点了，但没有把钱算上。托雷斯在858对郭的个人没收上，流入统计上完全就没有提法治基金法治社会的钱。","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q79ea8acdaa16945bfa1f"}}