{"id":"q4b6000032393af4a457c","batch_id":"batch-000161","seq":567,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-30T16:38:10.504Z","text":"对的 托雷斯把853和判决拆开了","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"q3b7a1bc23397ab769d23","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4b6000032393af4a457c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3b7a1bc23397ab769d23","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000161/pages/3","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000161/pages/3","notice":"这里汇集爆料革命参与者围绕郭文贵案的持续讨论，包括长期深度参与者及自述投入真金白银的投资者。他们分享亲历过程、资金投入与后续遭遇，并结合案卷展开追问、核对和观点交锋。这些来自事件内部的经验与细节，为理解事件经过和投资者处境提供了外部报道之外的重要视角。请结合具体发言判断其经历与依据，引用时保留发言者、时间和上下文。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4b6000032393af4a457c","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4b6000032393af4a457c/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q4b6000032393af4a457c","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q95314c1ec0221d307217","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-09-30T16:18:19.020Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q95314c1ec0221d307217"},{"id":"q7373cbdd7b03db674dbb","speaker":"zha***","date":"2026-09-30T16:32:36.998Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7373cbdd7b03db674dbb"},{"id":"q6cd1a094a708aa9f615c","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-30T16:36:50.842Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6cd1a094a708aa9f615c"},{"id":"q5bbc288ec721c7a662e9","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-09-30T16:48:07.241Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5bbc288ec721c7a662e9"},{"id":"qe33b56bc7a254709564a","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-30T16:55:33.656Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe33b56bc7a254709564a"},{"id":"qab10f48e2056d28fabc1","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-30T16:56:02.635Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qab10f48e2056d28fabc1"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q3b7a1bc23397ab769d23","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-09-30T14:41:18.209Z","text":"［用户 kir***］  ［用户 reb***］ \nfike 866关于政府请求部分unseal 488/720后的853，托雷斯批准\n这个现在看起来，可能是给二巡理由，拒绝强制令里关于取消没收的\n二巡可以根据866，说final order正在推进\n其实托雷斯看得到这些853，压根没有必要检方再appeal，只能说明是故意走过场，拖延","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3b7a1bc23397ab769d23"}}