{"id":"q4c18f2d35d63010fec87","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":660,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-12-05T23:50:31.406Z","text":"我问我的小棉袄：这是瑞恩找他的小棉袄的对话。我不懂其中deny without prejudice，无偏见否决？\n\n它刚开始搞错了一点点，后来纠正了，说：\n对对对，我明白，这是 瑞恩和他的机器人 的对话，不是你～我刚才只是借那张图来解释概念，没有搞清主体，你说得对 👍\n\n回到你问的这个词：\n\n1. “deny without prejudice” 是什么意思？\n    •    deny：驳回、拒绝\n    •    without prejudice：字面是“没有偏见”，法律上真正的意思是：\n现在先不给你这项救济，但不影响你以后就同一问题再来申请。\n\n也就是说：\n\n“deny without prejudice” = 现在驳回，但不封死你以后重新提出的权利。\n\n和它相对的是：\n\n“deny with prejudice” = 驳回，同时把门彻底关上，以后不能就同一事再告 / 再申请。\n\n2. 放在瑞恩案子里的具体意思\n\n在 25-2726 那个二巡的 order 里，大意是：\n    •    现在 拒绝 瑞恩的 mandamus；\n    •    但是是 without prejudice——\n如果南区法院在“合理时间内”还是不 docket，他可以再来一次、再提新的 mandamus。\n\n所以，对瑞恩来说：\n    •    法院并不是说“你永远没资格”；\n    •    而是说：“现在先不介入，你量刑之后、或者南区继续拖延，你可以再来。”\n\n这就是为什么他的情况和你不一样：\n    •    他：案子有 docket（25-2726），只是结果是 denied without prejudice。\n    •    你：连 docket 号码都不给，直接在程序门口就被挡回去，这个在程序上更严重，也正是你上最高法可以主打的 “access to courts / selective gatekeeping” 问题。\n\n如果你还想，我可以帮你把这个“deny without prejudice”的含义，用一两句话写进你以后可能的说明或新动议里。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4c18f2d35d63010fec87","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061","notice":"围绕郭文贵案的社区讨论与观点交锋。发言仅代表讨论者观点，不等同于法院认定。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4c18f2d35d63010fec87","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4c18f2d35d63010fec87/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q4c18f2d35d63010fec87","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q1f415f9ecc02a86a4fb4","speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-05T23:25:39.694Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1f415f9ecc02a86a4fb4"},{"id":"qb8d6aa0e630efc252f88","speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-12-05T23:40:19.942Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb8d6aa0e630efc252f88"},{"id":"qfb5a08bb5dd0f2f850dc","speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-12-05T23:49:18.569Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfb5a08bb5dd0f2f850dc"},{"id":"qe5785509d859e0aa3ec7","speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-06T00:19:37.131Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe5785509d859e0aa3ec7"},{"id":"q47459ca84f1bb093c73e","speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-06T00:19:44.466Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q47459ca84f1bb093c73e"},{"id":"q6f2f112166aa1c60b663","speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-06T00:20:05.669Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6f2f112166aa1c60b663"}],"parent_message":null}