{"id":"q4c7088a2bb15cce288b3","batch_id":"batch-000107","seq":781,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-05-01T10:37:49.620Z","text":"通过自诉，进到这个案子里，是目前最简便的方式，而且已经有先例了\n自己的投资，剥离出这个案子，对郭的量刑，也不会有任何影响","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"q037d229c9e21ee3f1231","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4c7088a2bb15cce288b3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q037d229c9e21ee3f1231","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000107/pages/4","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000107/pages/4","notice":"这里汇集爆料革命参与者围绕郭文贵案的持续讨论，包括长期深度参与者及自述投入真金白银的投资者。他们分享亲历过程、资金投入与后续遭遇，并结合案卷展开追问、核对和观点交锋。这些来自事件内部的经验与细节，为理解事件经过和投资者处境提供了外部报道之外的重要视角。请结合具体发言判断其经历与依据，引用时保留发言者、时间和上下文。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4c7088a2bb15cce288b3","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4c7088a2bb15cce288b3/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q4c7088a2bb15cce288b3","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q16f7ca366fe634566058","speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-05-01T10:35:03.211Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q16f7ca366fe634566058"},{"id":"q95ab7ad22ba589f36ad8","speaker":"him***","date":"2026-05-01T10:35:26.989Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q95ab7ad22ba589f36ad8"},{"id":"q9d63e0341cf8c644be79","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-05-01T10:36:58.870Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9d63e0341cf8c644be79"},{"id":"q793879ef9bc091f2ec70","speaker":"him***","date":"2026-05-01T10:40:18.396Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q793879ef9bc091f2ec70"},{"id":"q7c7349cb460172b5385b","speaker":"him***","date":"2026-05-01T10:40:30.059Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7c7349cb460172b5385b"},{"id":"q474a4cc3bb031345a81b","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-05-01T10:42:04.324Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q474a4cc3bb031345a81b"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q037d229c9e21ee3f1231","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-05-01T10:32:16.818Z","text":"那些把钱交给农场，不管是贷款，还是帮忙入金喜交易所，如果觉得自己的钱被农场吞了，可以去自诉，主张这部分钱不应算入量刑金钱判决，除非证明这些钱已经被任何被告实际控制。按照rico案的调查方式，美国政府应当给你一个结果。不然，只有自己去起诉农场，追回钱难度更大。","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q037d229c9e21ee3f1231"}}