{"id":"q4c8f97e3bb14586a02df","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":929,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-11-01T08:12:24.749Z","text":"388里，托雷斯是把魏夏张戴四个归类为农场这一块的共谋，并没有说农场管理层全都是，然后有说联盟是诈骗工具。","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"q8d814987d642d949cf47","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4c8f97e3bb14586a02df","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8d814987d642d949cf47","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166/pages/5","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166/pages/5","notice":"这里汇集爆料革命参与者围绕郭文贵案的持续讨论，包括长期深度参与者及自述投入真金白银的投资者。他们分享亲历过程、资金投入与后续遭遇，并结合案卷展开追问、核对和观点交锋。这些来自事件内部的经验与细节，为理解事件经过和投资者处境提供了外部报道之外的重要视角。请结合具体发言判断其经历与依据，引用时保留发言者、时间和上下文。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4c8f97e3bb14586a02df","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4c8f97e3bb14586a02df/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q4c8f97e3bb14586a02df","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q63d0922718925cf865bc","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-11-01T08:09:47.272Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q63d0922718925cf865bc"},{"id":"q8d814987d642d949cf47","speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-11-01T08:10:02.226Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8d814987d642d949cf47"},{"id":"qb7850684b621ad80ad51","speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-11-01T08:10:15.180Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb7850684b621ad80ad51"},{"id":"qa85fef87332d8bc568d9","speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-11-01T08:14:11.310Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa85fef87332d8bc568d9"},{"id":"q38bbf3521347953cfb16","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-11-01T08:14:22.312Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q38bbf3521347953cfb16"},{"id":"q393682be0e28bea22824","speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-11-01T08:16:00.459Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q393682be0e28bea22824"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q8d814987d642d949cf47","speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-11-01T08:10:02.226Z","text":"但388里说农场主都是共谋，他那会也是农场管理层吧","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8d814987d642d949cf47"}}