{"id":"q4e291039b2a99b8cb54d","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":319,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-19T01:13:08.048Z","text":"［用户 joh***］ 王的金钱判决也没有trace","text_en":null,"edited":true,"reply_to":"qe9efdd68e9ba5919eafc","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4e291039b2a99b8cb54d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe9efdd68e9ba5919eafc","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164/pages/2","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164/pages/2","notice":"这里汇集爆料革命参与者围绕郭文贵案的持续讨论，包括长期深度参与者及自述投入真金白银的投资者。他们分享亲历过程、资金投入与后续遭遇，并结合案卷展开追问、核对和观点交锋。这些来自事件内部的经验与细节，为理解事件经过和投资者处境提供了外部报道之外的重要视角。请结合具体发言判断其经历与依据，引用时保留发言者、时间和上下文。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4e291039b2a99b8cb54d","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4e291039b2a99b8cb54d/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q4e291039b2a99b8cb54d","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q597c76bb9527534b5f76","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-10-19T01:09:02.003Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q597c76bb9527534b5f76"},{"id":"q686e476b5092da1629a9","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-19T01:09:34.235Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q686e476b5092da1629a9"},{"id":"q5a297d9e735bc67a4f80","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-19T01:10:55.669Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5a297d9e735bc67a4f80"},{"id":"q2b6f4f78e91b88664ac0","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-19T01:14:43.377Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2b6f4f78e91b88664ac0"},{"id":"q323efed72285f8b9e51b","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-19T01:18:14.880Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q323efed72285f8b9e51b"},{"id":"qae66b69558625a23266c","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-19T01:18:26.340Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qae66b69558625a23266c"}],"parent_message":{"id":"qe9efdd68e9ba5919eafc","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-19T00:39:42.081Z","text":"［用户 reb***］ ［用户 kir***］这的问题就是，同样的有和解，王因GTV转款被起诉，魏的VOG却没有\n共谋有没有涉及洗钱，是一回事，检方选择不起诉，是另外一回事\n不起诉，要给理由，是不是有协议？\n魏是共谋，VOG在z-26属于GTV投资的部分，那么，也属于涉案资金\n起诉书里，没有VOG的72.9m，王案没收清单，也没有VOG。那么王案涉案金额，有没有包括VOG?\n只要有过GTV投资的，都可以质疑检方，这个72.9m，不是小数目，涉及到王的量刑","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe9efdd68e9ba5919eafc"}}