{"id":"q4f7274fd551c38fd6c17","batch_id":"batch-000045","seq":716,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-07T02:09:31.177Z","text":"律师肯定不会做什么有用的 但这已经比[屏蔽词]丽娜好很多了","edited":true,"reply_to":"qa506620cd0a04455899a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4f7274fd551c38fd6c17","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa506620cd0a04455899a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000045","notice":"围绕郭文贵案的社区讨论与观点交锋。发言仅代表讨论者观点，不等同于法院认定。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4f7274fd551c38fd6c17","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4f7274fd551c38fd6c17/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q4f7274fd551c38fd6c17","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"qc9c2f7fbb7e86c56908f","speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-07T01:54:10.224Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc9c2f7fbb7e86c56908f"},{"id":"q0c82ac04cd0da21e5a1d","speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-07T01:54:36.449Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0c82ac04cd0da21e5a1d"},{"id":"qa506620cd0a04455899a","speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-10-07T02:07:55.511Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa506620cd0a04455899a"},{"id":"q6b6cbbe94360d03b4a25","speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-07T02:09:53.023Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6b6cbbe94360d03b4a25"},{"id":"qef2bb169cb6950b3084c","speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-07T02:11:55.364Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qef2bb169cb6950b3084c"},{"id":"q05317be7536226a804fc","speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-10-07T02:13:41.273Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q05317be7536226a804fc"}],"parent_message":{"id":"qa506620cd0a04455899a","speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-10-07T02:07:55.511Z","text":"🧭 一、现实背景（你描述的情况）\n\n1. 检方提交了 Dkt. 750（政府的回复/主张）。\n\n\n2. 法院并没有命令辩方必须回应。\n\n\n3. 辩方主动提交 Dkt. 752 请求延长时间回复政府（延到 10月6日）。\n\n\n4. 法官（Dkt. 753）批准了延迟。\n\n\n5. 在此期间，初步没收令（POF）没有执行，而 Luc Despins 仍在破产体系下控制并花用财产。\n\n\n\n\n---\n\n⚖️ 二、辩方的正确做法（若真正为被告负责）\n\n在这种情况下，辩方的首要义务是保护被告的实质利益——尤其是防止资产被错误归类或被第三方（如破产受托人）耗尽。\n从法律与策略角度，他们本应：\n\n✅ 1. 立即要求法官裁定（Motion to Compel Ruling）\n\n引用：\n\nLocal Criminal Rule 49.1(b)（要求法院对重要动议及时裁定）；\n\nFed. R. Crim. P. 32.2(b)(2)（法院应在初步没收令发布后“及时”处理财产问题）。\n\n\n他们应向法院提交一份简短动议或信函：\n\n> “Your Honor, given the ongoing dissipation of disputed assets, we respectfully request the Court to rule on Defendant’s Motion (Dkt. 748) within the 30-day period to prevent further irreparable harm.”\n\n\n\n这样：\n\n既符合法律程序；\n\n也在为被告争取司法冻结的及时性；\n\n为后续上诉或强制令（mandamus）保留程序记录。\n\n\n\n---\n\n✅ 2. 如果法院仍不裁定，应立即向二巡上诉或申请强制令（Mandamus）\n\n在法官无故拖延或滥用自由裁量权时，辩方应：\n\n向第二巡回法院（2nd Cir.）提交 Petition for Writ of Mandamus；\n\n要求二巡命令SDNY法院及时裁定或采取临时措施保护资产。\n\n\n这一步是完全合法的，尤其在出现“资产正在流失”这种**不可逆损害（irreparable harm）**的前提下。\n\n\n---\n\n✅ 3. 同时要求紧急保护令（Emergency Protective Order）\n\n即便没有法院的正式裁定，辩方也可以提出：\n\n> “Pending the Court’s ruling on Dkt. 748, Defendant respectfully requests a temporary restraint on the bankruptcy trustee’s expenditures related to disputed assets.”\n\n\n\n这种“过渡性保护令”非常常见，用于防止一方在程序空档期耗尽财产。\n（法院如果拒绝，这个拒绝反而会成为被告日后上诉的核心证据。）\n\n\n---\n\n✅ 4. 向检方施压要求执行没收令\n\n政府（DOJ）有义务根据 21 U.S.C. § 853(e) 执行冻结命令。\n辩方应指出：\n\n> “The Government’s refusal to execute its own Preliminary Order of Forfeiture constitutes neglect of duty and prejudices Defendant’s rights.”\n\n\n\n这样能在记录中表明：是检方在拖延、法院在放任、不是辩方无能。\n\n\n---\n\n🚫 三、辩方现在的做法（主动要求延期）意味着什么？\n\n他们现在的行为模式：\n\n没有要求法院裁定；\n\n没有要求保护令；\n\n没有向上级法院申请强制令；\n\n却主动“要多一点时间”来写回应。\n\n\n这表明：\n\n1. 辩方和检方在形成一种“默契拖延”模式；\n\n\n2. 他们知道法院不会在此期间作出裁定；\n\n\n3. 延期的结果是：Luc Despins 可以继续合法地开支资产；\n\n\n4. 等到法官终于开口时，资产早就消耗完了。\n\n\n\n\n---\n\n📌 四、如果真想为被告负责，正确的操作顺序应是：\n\n1. Day 25（9月29日前后）\n→ 向法院提交 Motion to Compel Prompt Ruling。\n\n\n2. Day 30（10月4日前后）\n→ 若仍无裁定，向二巡提交 Petition for Writ of Mandamus。\n\n\n3. 同步提交 Emergency Motion for Protective Order\n要求法院临时禁止Luc Despins继续动用资产。\n\n\n4. 记录政府不履行执行职责（Dkt. 750）\n将此纳入法官拖延不作为的证据链。","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa506620cd0a04455899a"}}