{"id":"q50ce91033348b663e809","batch_id":"batch-000143","seq":495,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-08-07T13:54:35.528Z","text":"这个关于检方托雷斯造成人道主义危机的论点，是非常值得提出的， 托雷斯违规上传了二巡没立案/给她的影印件 863 就可以用！","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"qab41f1877f1939174f0d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q50ce91033348b663e809","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qab41f1877f1939174f0d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000143/pages/3","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000143/pages/3","notice":"围绕郭文贵案的社区讨论与观点交锋。发言仅代表讨论者观点，不等同于法院认定。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q50ce91033348b663e809","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q50ce91033348b663e809/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q50ce91033348b663e809","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q742bb41827bf7dfdd203","speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-08-07T13:47:49.076Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q742bb41827bf7dfdd203"},{"id":"q9ea5aec9164cf4823c8b","speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-08-07T13:47:55.796Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9ea5aec9164cf4823c8b"},{"id":"qb87c965d46fd97f240ad","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-08-07T13:52:35.939Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb87c965d46fd97f240ad"},{"id":"qe931af1ecb6dff797cbf","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-08-07T13:54:42.217Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe931af1ecb6dff797cbf"},{"id":"q6618d02cd7a33338946a","speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-08-07T13:58:37.249Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6618d02cd7a33338946a"},{"id":"qfcdd3bc1703ae6ab5674","speaker":"nin***","date":"2026-08-07T13:59:44.441Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfcdd3bc1703ae6ab5674"}],"parent_message":{"id":"qab41f1877f1939174f0d","speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-08-07T13:20:47.144Z","text":"盖尔代理的目的很明显是冲着退款原路返回去的，不是什么853n, 他最初的所有动议要求都是财产返还动议，他是在原路返回被拒后才提的853n。1，他这件事如果成了，喜交所用户不用等这么多年还拿不到钱，不会有这么多人这几年缺钱活得这么痛苦，退还的资金也会从郭的损失金额里减去，对郭也更好。2，现在没成，那也留下了纪录 ，证明早已经提醒过托雷斯扣押资金会造成受害者的巨大损失，坐实了托雷死和检方长达几年的拖延扣押第三方资金，不光导致受害者资金巨大损失，更是导致有部分受害者生活困难，造成人道灾难的原因，我要在二巡大书特书这件事实，你们写不写随便你们，争论到此为止，Over","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qab41f1877f1939174f0d"}}