{"id":"q50fc34ffdc6b92620b7d","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":638,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-31T23:02:57.396Z","text":"［用户 ntp***］ 这个问题是关键了 但一句话说不清","text_en":null,"edited":true,"reply_to":"q8fcf130fd06afbe25b17","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q50fc34ffdc6b92620b7d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8fcf130fd06afbe25b17","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166/pages/4","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166/pages/4","notice":"这里汇集爆料革命参与者围绕郭文贵案的持续讨论，包括长期深度参与者及自述投入真金白银的投资者。他们分享亲历过程、资金投入与后续遭遇，并结合案卷展开追问、核对和观点交锋。这些来自事件内部的经验与细节，为理解事件经过和投资者处境提供了外部报道之外的重要视角。请结合具体发言判断其经历与依据，引用时保留发言者、时间和上下文。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q50fc34ffdc6b92620b7d","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q50fc34ffdc6b92620b7d/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q50fc34ffdc6b92620b7d","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"qe82558e1334e6a94d646","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-31T22:46:51.448Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe82558e1334e6a94d646"},{"id":"q6e1ea76a5a1b1be12eb3","speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-10-31T22:58:37.637Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6e1ea76a5a1b1be12eb3"},{"id":"q8fcf130fd06afbe25b17","speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-10-31T23:02:23.629Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8fcf130fd06afbe25b17"},{"id":"q7e2d24c3cb01dd6727c8","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-31T23:03:01.102Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7e2d24c3cb01dd6727c8"},{"id":"qf26649fbadfbcbcdbfd2","speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-10-31T23:03:27.672Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf26649fbadfbcbcdbfd2"},{"id":"qe888841f97d7fe2d864e","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-31T23:30:15.326Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe888841f97d7fe2d864e"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q8fcf130fd06afbe25b17","speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-10-31T23:02:23.629Z","text":"但无效辩护和cronic 必然相关吗？律师无能和恶意怎么区分？无论什么原因都能归到cronic ？ ［用户 kir***］","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8fcf130fd06afbe25b17"}}