{"id":"q512ca5a832a3d2e49652","batch_id":"batch-000102","seq":275,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-17T11:41:34.059Z","text":"那300个里，非法拿钱然后再承认是欺诈转移洗钱的的，是诈骗加妨碍司法加伪证罪。合法拿钱然后承认欺诈转移洗钱的，是妨碍司法加伪证罪。合法拿钱的，可以主张被luc敲诈勒索来争取避免妨碍司法和伪证罪成立。","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"qce0778a00fdd60766fa1","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q512ca5a832a3d2e49652","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qce0778a00fdd60766fa1","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000102/pages/2","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000102/pages/2","notice":"这里汇集爆料革命参与者围绕郭文贵案的持续讨论，包括长期深度参与者及自述投入真金白银的投资者。他们分享亲历过程、资金投入与后续遭遇，并结合案卷展开追问、核对和观点交锋。这些来自事件内部的经验与细节，为理解事件经过和投资者处境提供了外部报道之外的重要视角。请结合具体发言判断其经历与依据，引用时保留发言者、时间和上下文。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q512ca5a832a3d2e49652","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q512ca5a832a3d2e49652/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q512ca5a832a3d2e49652","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q6276028261300eb5e57a","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-17T11:37:55.606Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6276028261300eb5e57a"},{"id":"qa20f0d5d8ec727a19670","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-17T11:38:37.372Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa20f0d5d8ec727a19670"},{"id":"qaedd611f5a60f248a885","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-17T11:40:59.506Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaedd611f5a60f248a885"},{"id":"q51c9371e231f2d047af8","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-17T11:42:47.201Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q51c9371e231f2d047af8"},{"id":"q370ebf83c6f596fb5c51","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-17T11:45:19.823Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q370ebf83c6f596fb5c51"},{"id":"qd7c6d3b9c9759a27c6ca","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-17T11:47:15.936Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd7c6d3b9c9759a27c6ca"}],"parent_message":{"id":"qce0778a00fdd60766fa1","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-17T11:36:44.142Z","text":"这是提醒那洗钱的300骨干农场主\n要团结 不要反水 都是一根绳子上的蚂蚱","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qce0778a00fdd60766fa1"}}