{"id":"q5385cbcc92022b030360","batch_id":"batch-000111","seq":827,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-05-16T02:10:43.809Z","text":"第三方和被告本来就是平行线","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"qe1cf81f33e4aca4def22","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5385cbcc92022b030360","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe1cf81f33e4aca4def22","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000111/pages/5","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000111/pages/5","notice":"这里汇集爆料革命参与者围绕郭文贵案的持续讨论，包括长期深度参与者及自述投入真金白银的投资者。他们分享亲历过程、资金投入与后续遭遇，并结合案卷展开追问、核对和观点交锋。这些来自事件内部的经验与细节，为理解事件经过和投资者处境提供了外部报道之外的重要视角。请结合具体发言判断其经历与依据，引用时保留发言者、时间和上下文。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5385cbcc92022b030360","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5385cbcc92022b030360/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q5385cbcc92022b030360","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q930786bb9f8c0e41364e","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-05-16T02:05:46.776Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q930786bb9f8c0e41364e"},{"id":"qa21fc1f69a60df593e81","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-05-16T02:06:09.764Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa21fc1f69a60df593e81"},{"id":"qa06e9977be9fc28bb26d","speaker":"mrz***","date":"2026-05-16T02:09:32.859Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa06e9977be9fc28bb26d"},{"id":"qf95e378db073c4b11138","speaker":"him***","date":"2026-05-16T02:11:27.494Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf95e378db073c4b11138"},{"id":"q6f336c4c305667814e24","speaker":"him***","date":"2026-05-16T02:11:46.115Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6f336c4c305667814e24"},{"id":"q8fcd52f3dec9d068794f","speaker":"him***","date":"2026-05-16T02:13:25.250Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8fcd52f3dec9d068794f"}],"parent_message":{"id":"qe1cf81f33e4aca4def22","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-05-16T01:40:52.604Z","text":"问题就是，第三方，没法请求打回来重新量刑。量刑后没有办法救济。不能把第三方的救济寄托在被告律师上。","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe1cf81f33e4aca4def22"}}