{"id":"q54180fd104b8601ac308","batch_id":"batch-000159","seq":962,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-23T01:44:16.285Z","text":"四重资金司法冲突 rule32根本不可能过得去","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"qdf1a44730e3c0f5f4d25","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q54180fd104b8601ac308","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdf1a44730e3c0f5f4d25","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000159/pages/5","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000159/pages/5","notice":"这里汇集爆料革命参与者围绕郭文贵案的持续讨论，包括长期深度参与者及自述投入真金白银的投资者。他们分享亲历过程、资金投入与后续遭遇，并结合案卷展开追问、核对和观点交锋。这些来自事件内部的经验与细节，为理解事件经过和投资者处境提供了外部报道之外的重要视角。请结合具体发言判断其经历与依据，引用时保留发言者、时间和上下文。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q54180fd104b8601ac308","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q54180fd104b8601ac308/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q54180fd104b8601ac308","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q21c5d18540560488d34c","speaker":"him***","date":"2026-09-23T01:39:38.459Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q21c5d18540560488d34c"},{"id":"q62ee5ab970d8157b13ee","speaker":"him***","date":"2026-09-23T01:40:03.663Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q62ee5ab970d8157b13ee"},{"id":"qdf1a44730e3c0f5f4d25","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-23T01:40:53.142Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdf1a44730e3c0f5f4d25"},{"id":"q585fb35e0d278d950d46","speaker":"may***","date":"2026-09-23T01:44:56.231Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q585fb35e0d278d950d46"},{"id":"q8ab704e692f7bb2d0af3","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-09-23T01:48:54.960Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8ab704e692f7bb2d0af3"},{"id":"q9ca29b2d2cafd0e7944d","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-23T01:55:01.629Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9ca29b2d2cafd0e7944d"}],"parent_message":{"id":"qdf1a44730e3c0f5f4d25","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-23T01:40:53.142Z","text":"tony的证据  大陆投资者通过黄牛 外贸公司 汇款到农场 请问这些钱是债权 还是loss 还是什么？","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdf1a44730e3c0f5f4d25"}}