{"id":"q561c21b1cfb2b5b5c01b","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":227,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-05T06:25:27.291Z","text":"344是法庭的还是检方的","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"q43b309b7014d0e5ad763","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q561c21b1cfb2b5b5c01b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q43b309b7014d0e5ad763","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076/pages/2","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076/pages/2","notice":"围绕郭文贵案的社区讨论与观点交锋。发言仅代表讨论者观点，不等同于法院认定。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q561c21b1cfb2b5b5c01b","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q561c21b1cfb2b5b5c01b/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q561c21b1cfb2b5b5c01b","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q0ddc70376c177f5667ca","speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-02-05T06:02:59.830Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0ddc70376c177f5667ca"},{"id":"q1693d043e4adb3d87fd8","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-05T06:12:50.368Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1693d043e4adb3d87fd8"},{"id":"qa12972b1d7e4630e7fbc","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-05T06:25:14.191Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa12972b1d7e4630e7fbc"},{"id":"q602fdd0ee9e0541598d1","speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-02-05T09:23:27.411Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q602fdd0ee9e0541598d1"},{"id":"qc9843af511031f25fcc3","speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-02-05T10:11:00.348Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc9843af511031f25fcc3"},{"id":"qc724eafacb1f89924566","speaker":"Sap***","date":"2026-02-05T11:26:38.811Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc724eafacb1f89924566"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q43b309b7014d0e5ad763","speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-05T03:03:02.915Z","text":"文件344，非常重要的一句话\n--其次，夏和戴与所有农场领导人一样，都是被告的代理人，他们的陈述是在这种代理关系的范围内作出的。\n\n意思就是所有农场领导人，都是郭文贵共谋犯，当然联盟农场领导人都是共谋犯！检方文件382申请认定郭文贵有共谋的动议，也有一样或者差不多意思的描述，文件388法官认定郭文贵有同谋的命令，也引用了检方关于农场的描述。\n\n大概意思就是，联盟农场上面这些[屏蔽词]是法庭认定的郭文贵的共谋犯！\n\n\n那么，郭文贵的共谋犯参与或者主导的债权人登记，喜交所表格，数字银行登记，按照法庭文件解释，这就是共谋犯罪的犯罪过程或者犯罪延伸。那三个登记协议，都可以认为涉嫌或者就是共谋！要求法庭作废那三个登记协议，涉嫌共谋犯罪的登记或协议，怎么能来法庭要钱索赔啊？并且代理那三个登记和协议的卢克盖尔和Gavenman,我都有理由怀疑他们三个可能也是共谋犯！","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q43b309b7014d0e5ad763"}}